Talk:Anti-Iranian sentiment

International polls?

What has the International polls section to do with Anti-Iranian sentiment? The polls are regarding the regime, which is the subject of criticism and controversies. Imho the section is completely irrelevant and misleading; it should be removed. --HistoryofIran (talk) 01:59, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

I agree, this is about the government, with little data showing the anti-Iranian sentiments regarding the culture/people/history, etc. It should be removed. (Highpeaks35 (talk) 02:15, 18 May 2019 (UTC))

Also agree, Iranian regime is different from Iranian people and culture. Support removing. Stefka Bulgaria (talk) 09:51, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Pew Research Center poll

What's wrong with this source on anti-Iranian sentiment? Pew is a reliable source.--Aroma Stylish (talk) 19:17, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

This just goes to show once again that you're disruptive. Since when did anyone comment on the reliability of the source? You've literally been told several times why you've been reverted. This sounds like a case of WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT or/and heavy WP:COMPETENCE issues. Also, no consensus has been reached, so stop trying to force that source onto the article by edit warring against two editors. You could very easily get blocked if someone reported you. --HistoryofIran (talk) 16:30, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

I'm done with your personal attacks. You have literally no valid argument to remove the table. I'm going to revert you as long as necessary. If you have a problem call in arbitration.--Aroma Stylish (talk) 16:54, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

I didn't attack you at all. Once again, you're completely ignoring my points and refusing to answer them. And you've just threatened to continue edit warring. --HistoryofIran (talk) 18:16, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Putting it here as well, not that I expect an answer: What has the poll (which is about its global image) to do with Anti-Iranian sentiment, i.e "feelings and expression of hostility, hatred, discrimination, or prejudice towards Iran"? The poll is clearly about the regime as well, and even mentions how Rouhani is viewed by other countries. --HistoryofIran (talk) 18:35, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Aroma Stylish, from what I can see, the Pew source describes the Islamic Republic, not Iranian people / culture per se. If you want to make a case for why you think this report pertains to Iranian people and culture (as opposed to the regime that currently governs it), then by all means present your case here and try to get consensus. Continuing to edit war will only get you blocked, and there is no need for that. I'll revert your edit, but please only add it back once you receive consensus here. Thank you. Stefka Bulgaria (talk) 07:21, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

This article obviously is not only for Iranian people or culture. It's also for hostility against Iran as a country aka the Islamic Republic. Lede says "Anti-Iranian sentiment, also known as Anti-Persian sentiment, Persophobia, or Iranophobia[1] refers to feelings and expression of hostility, hatred, discrimination, or prejudice towards Iran (historically known as Persia in the Western world) and its culture, and towards persons based on their association with Iran and Iranian culture."--Aroma Stylish (talk) 15:29, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

In one of your edit summaries, you say that "This is a Gallup survey on negative sentiments towards Iran and Iranians in general". Reading through Pew source, I find the survey pertains more to the political sphere than Iranian culture per se. That may be more suitable for the Islamic Republic's article (though I'm not sure), but I don't think it's suitable for this article (which is more about Iranian people and is less about Iranian politics). Stefka Bulgaria (talk) 16:38, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Late here to add, but I don't see why polls on the country of Iran are unsuitable for the article. A casual search of "anti-Iranian sentiment" yields WP:RSP accepted sources like Foreign Policy, Al Jazeera, Carnegie etc. as top results, all of which use the term "anti-Iranian" in conjunction with Iran's politics & leaders/govt. Similar polls are used in pages like Anti-Russian sentiment, Anti-Chinese sentiment, Anti-Indian sentiment, Anti-Pakistan sentiment, Anti-Japanese sentiment etc. Donkey Hot-day (talk) 12:00, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

Hatred for iranians is not necessarily ambiguous with hatred for persians

Please don't confuse the two Persian Lad (talk) 23:03, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

I think you are confusing "hatred for an ethnic group (i.e. "Persians")" with "hatred for a country/polity (Iran and Persia being synonymous). "Anti-Persian sentiment" is found in many WP:RS in context of various periods of Iranian history, including the Achaemenid, the Safavid and Qajar periods, with the latter two not even being of "ethnic Persian origin".

This is what a quick search showed (there's much more):

• "Though by 1653 the Safavids had managed to make Kandahar their own, their reassertion of city control bred much anti-Persian sentiment." -- Abbas Amanat (2017). Iran: A Modern History. Yale University Press. p. 134
• "Anti-Cambyses or anti-Persian sentiment possibly emerged when certain priests had become dissatisfied with Cambyses and the Persian occupation (...)" -- Gene R. Garthwaite. (2005). The Persians. Wiley. p. 32
• "During the interwar era, sometimes virulent anti-Persian rhetoric infused the pronouncements of Arab policymakers such as Sati al-Husri, yet his Western biographer and renowned Arabist, William Cleveland, made little mention of his anti-Persian prejudices." -- Matthew K. Shannon, ed. (2022). American-Iranian Dialogues: From Constitution to White Revolution, C. 1890s-1960s. Bloomsbury Academic. p. 75
• "Moreover, of the many assurances of anti-Persian sentiment from Georgians, Transcaucasian khans, and Armenians, only those of the Georgians seemed reliable." -- George A. Bournoutian (1992). The Khanate of Erevan Under Qajar Rule, 1795-1828. Mazda Publishers. p. 69

- LouisAragon (talk) 00:32, 6 May 2023 (UTC)

The anti-Persian bias in the lead is obvious. Iranians includes people more than just Persians or the natives of Fars/Persis/Parsa. Why is there a separate article for anti-Kurdish sentiment collective hatred for Iranians is equated with just Persians. We could equally equate anti-Iranian sentiment with anti-Kurdish sentiment or anti-Azeri sentiment just as well.--Persian Lad (talk) 23:56, 8 May 2023 (UTC)

Turks commonly hate Iranian Persians but are simultaneously pro-Iranian Azeri so this does not add up.--Persian Lad (talk) 00:23, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, but I think you're thinking too deep into it. I honestly doubt that someone who hates Iran and Iranians would even care to give their ethnicity a thought. This article clearly demonstrates that. --HistoryofIran (talk) 01:28, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

Bias in the “Turkic World” part

In relation of the Azerbaijani part, sources of footnotes 128 and 139 are of either Armenian or Persian authors, who may have anti-Azerbaijani sentiments themselves. This is biased and an implicit misrepresentation. 81.246.83.64 (talk) 20:09, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

@81.246.83.64 Actually they are not and they're from the republic of Azerbaijan. It might be a hard pill to swallow but the place you are from was not even called Azerbaijan when MohammadAmin Rasoolzadeh came to power. Virtually all historical sources about Azerbaijan are in Persian and when you erase Persian from there you can feed whatever lies you want to those people. Historical Azerbaijan was only defined as a province in Iran and its culture a subcategory of Iranian culture. You can read Nizami -the national poet of "Azerbaijan"- and see for yourself if you don't believe me. Espedar (talk) 19:54, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Awful grammar

The quality of this article’s writing is atrocious and severely diminishes the legitimacy of its content. I suggest that a banner be put up to show that article might not be fully up to Wikipedia’s standards. 2001:4BB8:190:293C:93D:CE1C:7E7B:2554 (talk) 14:31, 18 March 2024 (UTC)