Talk:Appropriation bill

Canada

I'm not exactly sure what in Canada serves this purpose, we don't seem to identify with these terms, I assume it's just 'The Budget' SJrX10 (talk) 21:20, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

In Canada a "money" bill that implements the budget speach is known as a Supply Bill. Parliament (and provincial legistlatures) must vote supply, thus a minority government can also fall it it fails to secure a majority vote on a supply bill.

An example, form the www.parl.gc.ca C-6R — The President of the Treasury Board — An Act for granting to Her Majesty certain sums of money for the federal public administration for the financial year ending March 31, 2010 Supplementary Estimates (C), 2009-2010 — Concurred in — March 23, 2010 (See Business of Supply No. 3) Read the first time; read the second time and referred to a Committee of the Whole; considered in Committee of the Whole; reported without amendment; concurred in at report stage; read the third time and passed Passed by the Senate — March 30, 2010 Adoption par le Sénat — 30 mars 2010 Royal Assent (Chapter No. 1) — March 31, 2010

From http://www2.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Language=E&Mode=1&Parl=40&Ses=3&DocId=4364458#DOC--4372591 Journals of March 23, 2010

Mr. Day (President of the Treasury Board), seconded by Mr. O'Connor (Minister of State), moved, — That this House do concur in Interim Supply as follows: M. Day (président du Conseil du Trésor), appuyé par M. O'Connor (ministre d’État), propose, That a sum not exceeding $27,249,740,435.50 being composed of:

(1) three twelfths ($19,721,272,993.00) of the total of the amounts of the items set forth in the Proposed Schedule 1 and Schedule 2 of the Main Estimates for the fiscal year ending March 31, 2011, which were laid upon the Table Wednesday, March 3, 2010, except for those items below: (2) eleven twelfths of the total of the amount of Canadian Grain Commission Vote 40, Atomic Energy of Canada Limited Vote 15, Canadian Air Transport Security Authority Vote 25 and Treasury Board Vote 5 (Schedule 1.1), of the said Estimates, $1,009,187,981.08; (3) seven twelfths of the total of the amount of Canada Council for the Arts Vote 10, Canadian Centre for Occupational Health and Safety Vote 25, Justice Vote 1 and Canadian Nuclear Safety Commission Vote 20 (Schedule 1.2) of the said Estimates, $282,925,437.67; (4) six twelfths of the total of the amount of Human Resources and Skills Development Vote 5 and Indian Affairs and Northern Development Vote 20 (Schedule 1.3) of the said Estimates, $1,071,498,468.50; (5) five twelfths of the total of the amount of National Arts Centre Corporation Vote 65, National Battlefields Commission Vote 70, Indian Affairs and Northern Development Vote 10, Statistics Canada Vote 105, The Jacques Cartier and Champlain Bridges Incorporated Vote 70 and VIA Rail Canada Inc. Vote 80 (Schedule 1.4), of the said Estimates, $2,963,624,841.24; (6) four twelfths of the total of the amount of Canadian Broadcasting Corporation Vote 15, Public Service Commission Vote 105, Citizenship and Immigration Vote 5, Canadian Environmental Assessment Agency Vote 15, Foreign Affairs and International Trade Vote 1, Canadian International Development Agency Vote 20, Health Vote 10, Indian Affairs and Northern Development Vote 1, Industry Vote 1, Canadian Space Agency Vote 35, Library of Parliament Vote 10, Office of the Conflict of Interest and Ethics Commissioner Vote 15 and Marine Atlantic Inc. Vote 40 (Schedule 1.5), of the said Estimates, $2,201,230,714.01; be granted to Her Majesty on account of the fiscal year ending March 31, 2011. The question was put on the motion and it was agreed to on the following division:

Quinteperegrine (talk) 12:01, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

new article Federal Appropriations (United States)

As far as I can tell, there's no article dedicated to the Federal (i.e. United States) appropriations process. The public-domain source I've included above should provide good seed material. Agradman ^talk/_contribs 02:34, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

This article says "According to the United States Constitution (Article I, Section 7, clause 1), all bills relating to revenue, generally tax bills, must originate in the House of Representatives, consistent with the Westminster system requiring all money bills to originate in the lower house which is why the appropriations bills that are enacted begin with "H.R.", indicating a bill that originated in the House." It starts out talking about revenue bills, and then jumps to appropriations without mentioning constitutional or statutory authority.

In addition, HR stands for House Resolution, and isn't confined to money bills, to my knowledge; again, there's no Constitutional mandate that I'm aware of requiring appropriation bills also to be initiated by the House.Georgia Yankee (talk) 20:56, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Military appropriations

The Constitution says that Congress has power "To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years." Appropriations for the Navy, and the Air Force can be for more than two years. Congress has power "To provide and maintain a Navy" but that clause follows the earlier one on Armies. --DThomsen8 (talk) 01:53, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

Australian Appropriation Bills

Australian Parliament uses these terms but there is no content on the Australian system other than the vague mention of Whitlam's Dismissal by Sir John Kerr. Could someone please add appropriate content?

Merger with Money bill

Is this another name for a money bill? Both articles even refer to the same term, "supply bill". Should they be merged? —ajf (talk) 21:27, 30 November 2016 (UTC)

• Oppose. A money bill is about taxation (revenue) or spending, while an appropriation bill, especially in the United States, is only about spending (although it seems that an appropriation bill in New Zealand can be about both taxation and spending). --Neo-Jay (talk) 03:39, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

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