Talk:Are You the One?/Archive 1

What is a "perfect match"?

What is a "perfect match"? A perfect match is someone that you love and connect with more than anyone else in the world.

Based on the April 1, 2014 Reunion Show results, 9 out the the 10 'perfect matches' were not really even good matches. So I agree, the premise was "can the group identify 10 random couplings that the producers chose from a hat", or some other mechanism. Something like the game 'Mastermind'. Make a guess and based on the results, modify your selection.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.252.20.138 (talk) 22:15, 10 May 2014‎ (UTC)

I'm not just wondering whether the "perfect match" is a "good" or not (as wondering for example a medical diagnosis may be right or not), but even wondering its definition: a "perfect match" is not defined (as, in the medical diagnosis, it would had be if there not exist a definition about "medical diagnosis"). --109.53.218.137 (talk) 21:02, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Perfect matches are determined in the show by "an extensive match making process by psychologists, a team of professional match makers, friends, family and ex-partners" that's verbatim from the season 3 opener. 86.30.17.150 (talk) 23:17, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

I don't think there is anything perfect about it. I think they just take all of the divas, attention seekers and wanna be's that apply for the show and pick the 20 that they think will bring the most drama. Then of those 20, they come up with the best pairings based on limited matchmaking skills. They simply call those 10 pairings a perfect match. Let's be real, this show is about making money, not finding love. These 20 people are all getting paid to give us a good show. They want to be rich and famous, not hopelessly in love. All that being said . . . I still love to watch the show. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dramadr (talk • contribs) 01:27, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

The show is more on the entertainment side than the contestants having the money and love and I think the contestants are just more on lust, kiss,sex and fun which is not the'theme' of the show but the show is entertaining Olethiweyo (talk) 14:43, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Season 3: Likely Match Percentages

How are the percentages in the table derived? I understand the 100%. But many of them have 0% that were not confirmed by the truth booth to not be a match.

Someone needs to update the article to explain what information is being used to derive these percentages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dramadr (talk • contribs) 14:31, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

The percentages are derived from looking at the 23 remaining possible combinations and seeing how many of them contain each pairing. For example Melanie and Chuck are matched in 13 of the remaining 23 combinations so that couple is listed at 61% — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.204.232.146 (talk) 14:47, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

I have to assume that is based on all of the updated "Confirmed Not a Match" pairs based on assumptions and confirmed facts? Based only on confirmed pairings I am showing there are 65 (If I counted correctly) possible combinations. Chuck has 6 possible matches so there is only a 16.7% chance that Melanie is his perfect match. Melanie has 7 possible matches so there is only a 14.3% chance that Chuck is her perfect match. I am not a math person so that is about as precise as my skills can get. But I don't understand how you can take that information and work it to giving them a 61% chance of being a perfect match. I would be less argumentative and questioning about all of this information if all of the assumptions that are being taken into account were clearly stated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.124.46.2 (talk) 18:41, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

I'm sorry I don't know what to tell you except that you are wrong. If you post a link to your 65 combinations, I'll go through each one and tell you why there are only 23. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.81.251.213 (talk) 02:50, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

It's just a spreadsheet that I am keeping. We will just have to find out over the next few weeks if any of these predictions that I have issues with are correct or not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dramadr (talk • contribs) 22:41, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Confirmed Not a Match?

The tables for season 3 are showing that Melanie and Hunter are confirmed as not being a match. Based on what??? Where is the source citation???

The fifth matchup had a confirmed perfect match in Connor and Chelsey. Assuming Alec and Stacey are a perfect match based on previous ceremonies, everyone in the fifth matchup bar Connor/Chelsey and Alec/Stacey aren't matches. 86.30.17.150 (talk) 11:12, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

That should be considered an UNCONFIRMED not a match, not a confirmed one. Especially since it is all predicated on an ASSUMPTION that Alec and Stacey are a match. Plus, if it is believed that Alec and Stacey are an unconfirmed perfect match, then they need to be color coded correctly as such. Hunter and Britni have a higher likelihood of being a perfect match than Alec and Stacey, so statistically it would be better to make predictions using them as the ASSUMED perfect match. The only time that Alec and Stacey were match and Hunter and Britni were not was in week 5, and that week they had one less correct match. So the case for Hunter and Britni is stronger. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.124.46.2 (talk) 16:22, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

I'm likely to agree, but at it stands for me (as someone who doesn't edit the page) I don't see them as a match when I'm doing my own guess work. But I've been wrong before. 86.30.17.150 (talk) 09:26, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Considering the success rate of all of the couples who have gone on this show, I think that MTV is doing a poor job of matching these couples. Therefore, making assumptions on perfect matches based on the interactions we see in the show is not a good indication of who the matches are. So the reporting on this page needs to be much more clear what assumptions are being made and that the page is not stating mathematical probability, but rather making predictions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.124.46.2 (talk) 20:43, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Same thing for Britni and Mike. What source is confirming that they are not a match? It isn't the truth booth results. Someone needs to cite their sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dramadr (talk •

contribs) 14:36, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Those two not being a match are just logic. There are 3 possible matches left that paired up in week 1:

• Britni & Hunter
• Kayla & Zak
• Stacey & Alec

Kayla & Zak and Stacey & Alec were also paired up in week 5, when they only got 2 beams of light.

• If Britni & Hunter are a match: Hunter can't be a match with Melanie and Mike can't be a match with Britni.
• If either Kayla & Zak or Stacey & Alec are a match: all the other possible matches that paired up in week 5 can't be a match, because they only got 2 beams of light.

I'm not pretty sure about Cheyenne & Tyler, Hannah & Devin and Hannah & Tyler not being a match though. FAB!AN (talk) 22:15, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

I don't think anyone can argue that one of the three matches you started with above have to be a perfect match. The only question is which one. My issue is that since we don't know for a fact which one is the perfect match, then all of the other assumptions of who is a match and who isn't should be color coded as an "Unconfirmed". Instead they are being colored coded as "Confirmed." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.124.46.2 (talk) 18:46, 13 November 2015 (UTC)

Separate Pages

Do you think these seasons should be on separate pages? This is all kind of confusing with all the seasons clumped together, especially when there is 7 different tables on here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Realitytvshow (talk • contribs) 22:58, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Yes, all seasons should be on a separate page as well as the second chances show on a different show page all together. This way it matches with other competition shows as well.69.73.50.78 (talk) 22:09, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

Progress Data Unsourced or Original Research

A large amount of data, in the form of what appears to be combinatorical analysis, was added to the "Progress" section for Season 6, which is currently airing. Unless a source is provided, it appears to be original research. --DavidK93 (talk) 17:50, 20 October 2017 (UTC)

The original progress data was added by one IP user. After I added citation tags, a different IP user added references to the site https://github.com/strat1892/IAmtheOne. I visited the site; it appears to unambiguously be a tool designed for users to perform their own original research. Therefore, it cannot be used in this article, per WP:NOR. Policy subsection WP:CALC further specifies that "basic arithmetic" can acceptably be performed without a source; by extension, any complicated or specialized mathematics of the type now included in the article must have a reliable source. The only way for a computational result from https://github.com/strat1892/IAmtheOne to be acceptable for use in a Wikipedia article would be if a reliable source used it to create a result that the source then published. Note that reliable sources attesting to the validity of the IAmtheOne tool (which might exist; I haven't looked) would be acceptable for article content discussing the reaction to the show or the existence and success of fan analysts, but would not justify inclusion of the computation results in the article; results are the product of somebody using the tool, which requires multiple rounds of data entry, and the specific running of the program by a Wikipedia editor would be unverified. One new piece of data analysis was added to a previous season with a citation to the github; I deleted that content. Because I do not know if the IP user who added the github links is the same individual as the (different) IP user who added the content I originally questioned, I don't know if the link is the source or the only source for the content, and thus I have replaced the citation tag with an original research tag. But if no verifiable source is provided for the data table, I will delete the unsourced content. --DavidK93 (talk) 02:47, 23 October 2017 (UTC)

I deleted the combinatorical chart. Some of the information was updated with the github original research still cited as the source, and in addition the chart was spot-edited in a way that, mathematically, can't be correct and therefore invalidates it. --DavidK93 (talk) 17:30, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Another original-research combinatorical chart was added to the article. I deleted it again. --DavidK93 (talk) 15:01, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

I deleted yet another tabulation of possible matches from the article. I understand that the logic and combinatorics surrounding this show's outcome are fascinating. But adding them to the Wikipedia article is original research. If a reliable source provides information about this, feel free to re-add such content and source it. The github tool is not a valid source; it is a platform for original research. --DavidK93 (talk) 22:12, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Michael and Audrey in the Truth Booth

For some reason, ISP users keep adding Truth Booth results for Michael and Audrey as Not a Match in the 8th week. Michael and Audrey were one of two couples who received getaway dates at the end of the last aired episode, episode 9; the 7th week's Truth Booth aired in episode 8. Neither the Truth Booth selection nor results for week 8 have actually aired yet; they would be expected to occur in episode 10 at this point. Does anyone know a reason why the Truth Booth results for Michael and Audrey would already be available, and can anyone provide a source? If not, I will continue to delete those additions. I can't tell if these additions constitute vandalism, so I have to assume that WP:3RR still applies. But if others wish to police the same content, we can keep it off the page unless sourced. --DavidK93 (talk) 20:40, 20 November 2017 (UTC)

Season Outcomes?

Why did the Progress charts have final results in them? The final results would only be known at the end of the season, unless someone has a source other than the show as aired. Please, either desist from adding this content to the article, or else provide a source for it. --DavidK93 (talk) 20:12, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

I figured out the only possible solution to Season 6, but don't know how to edit the page to include the results. They are: Jada-Keith, Diandra-Kareem, Audrey-Shad, Nurys-Dimitri, Alexis-Anthony, Zoe-Ethan, Keyana-Michael, Alivia-Malcolm, Geles-Clinton, Uche-Joe, and Nicole-Tyler (in week 9, we know it must generate "at least" 5 matches; it generates exactly 5 matches). How do I add this to the Wikipedia page? Others may, of course, check out the results I posted. Rmlieb (talk) 22:01, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 December 2017

Today, Uche Nwosu confirmed that her and the boy clinton were together. so I wanted to update that. 71.63.151.141 (talk) 05:49, 21 December 2017 (UTC)

 Not done - Please be more specific. You have to propose the exact textual change you require. The request must be of the form "please change X to Y". Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 11:32, 21 December 2017 (UTC)