Talk:Arif Dirlik

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Organization[edit]

As some users have noted, this page is now top-heavy, meaning that it's biographical portion is highly concentrated near the top of the page. It could use of dose of organizational readjustment, portioning out the thorough biographical portion into Education, Career, Biography, etc. sections. Joeyvandernaald (talk) 09:03, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Expansion[edit]

Several points:

  • Removed the Notability tag: WP:NACADEMICS requires only one from the list, and Dirlik satisfies at least two: #1: he is discussed in secondary sources, e.g. Bentley World History 16.1) #5 Named Chair: he was Knight Prof at Oregon.
  • I slightly edited the lede. I cut "retired" because you can retire from teaching but not from being an historian! I also cut the characterization of "Ad hominem," defined as "a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument." The phrase "foreign agents of capital" is Looba's not D.'s. Loomba did not characterize Dirlik's arguments as "ad hominem" and even if Loomba had done so, this would not justify saying D. is "most known" for ad hominem.

Hope all goes well. ch (talk) 20:02, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]


Well done thanks. I put the ref to Loomba back in there in later less prominent section. It seems clearly ad hominem to me as well-- poco studies scholars are guilty of being 'secret' agents of capital and thus so is the field. It is appealing to their personhood rather than fact or reason. Of course it would apply to himself too! I removed the link to the defunct UO place too, but kept its name in place. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peter chanpanman6 (talk • contribs) 15:33, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for restoring the reference. You're right that it's useful, but I removed "ad hominem" not so much because I disagree but because it's not in the reference: Original Research or analysis or synthesis of published material that serves to reach or imply a conclusion not stated by the sources.
I hope you can do some more work on this and related articles! ch (talk) 16:57, 30 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]


Thanks kindly! Looks good to me. I'll try to help with some other pages too-- got my id/login saved for once! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peter chanpanman6 (talk • contribs) 05:26, 31 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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