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Requested move 23 December 2015[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Regarding WP:NOUN, yes, but this is a wp:set index list of partial title matches, not really a traditional article. – Wbm1058 (talk) 22:11, 1 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

*aaS → As a service – I believe that this term will be more recognizable at a spelled-out title. bd2412 T 22:24, 23 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support WP:RECOGNIZABLE In ictu oculi (talk) 13:57, 24 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Support per In ictu oculi. –Davey2010 ^{Merry Xmas / Happy New Year} 22:21, 25 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comment this violates WP:NOUN 73.214.30.202 (talk) 20:18, 26 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Breeding ground[edit]

"As a Service" is a lonely article that should be the starting point for sections, someday with a "Main Article" template to those sections that breed full non-stub articles.

Meantime, the first listed is not even a redirect:

"Artifical Intelligence as a Service" points to an article with a different name. Pi314m (talk) 20:43, 1 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

WaaS & DaaS[edit]

I found "DaaS" as Digital Workplace as a Service (see the similar "Desktop as a Service")
and "WaaS" with both "Workplace as a Service" => Desktop virtualization with Citrix or VMware Workspace ONE & Horizon, including EMM for Smart Phones and Tablets; Application virtualization of custom applications as well as self-developed apps; hardware support from small client to laptop; print services and more
and "WaaS" for Windows as a Service, just supporting license management, call entry, troubleshooting and on-site-services for Windows (not hardware).

Please check and add. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.115.65.20 (talk) 18:27, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

RaaS[edit]

Ransomware as a Service took the industry by storm in the beginning of the 2020s — Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.91.61.188 (talk) 20:34, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Added. Banana Republic (talk) 12:59, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that extortion fits the definition of 'as a service' presented in this article. Which is, like any other Wikipedia article, supposed to be about a topic, not a phrase being used ironically. And furthermore, the Forbes source being cited seems to be paid-for content, and accordingly shouldn't be cited. I'm going to remove this for now, and ask that people discuss further before restoring it. AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:05, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose the Forbes reference is not a good reference because it's paid content. There is another reference, by Microsoft, that discusses Ransomware as a service in depth, and does not seem to be a sales pitch.

I agree that Ransomware as a service is different from all the other examples listed, but just because it's different does not mean that it should therefore not be listed. We can list it with a footnote saying that it is an illegal service. This is similar to the Windows as a service that is listed with a footnote that it's now obsolete. Banana Republic (talk) 19:54, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It should be noted that Exploit as a service, for which we have a Wikipedia article and is listed in this article, is also a service for illegal activity. Banana Republic (talk) 19:58, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Frankly, given the ridiculously broad criteria for inclusion this article seems to be built around (which appears to be anything someone somewhere has used the marketing jargon 'as a service' about), I'm wondering about nominating it for deletion per WP:NOTDICTIONARY. AndyTheGrump (talk) 20:17, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think the article will easily survive an AfD, since it's not a definition article. It explains the pros and cons of XaaS, and provides a list of examples. If anything, this is more of a list article.

I don't think it's ridiculous for the inclusion criteria to have the items either have an existing Wikipedia article or a reference showing existence / usage.

But that's just my opinion. You can put the article up for AfD and see what the community thinks. Banana Republic (talk) 21:30, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If it is a list article, what is it a list of, beyond things that have been described/marketed as 'something as a service'? AndyTheGrump (talk) 21:32, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Only the Examples section is a list. The article as a whole is not a list. Banana Republic (talk) 21:42, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The article as a whole is a largely unsourced mess. AndyTheGrump (talk) 22:21, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't fully agree with that, but even if that's the case, that's not a reason for deletion. AfDs are only used for articles in which the notability of the subject is questionable. Banana Republic (talk) 23:21, 20 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

But what exactly is the subject? AndyTheGrump (talk) 00:00, 21 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

With this edit, what the subject is should be a little bit more clear. The subject is a business model in which something is being presented to a customer, either internal or external, as a service. Banana Republic (talk) 18:07, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Long example list[edit]

A table of examples brings no value to this article, it is just a manually maintained and inferior copy of Category:As a service. It brings no value to this article and is merely a venue for people to spam Wikipedia with nonnotable neologisms. This article is better off without it. MrOllie (talk) 02:14, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A highly technical article like this one needs at least a few real-world examples of what an "as a service" business might do.

Twenty bluelinks to full articles doesn't seem excessive as a way to give the reader an overview of that. Prose that grouped examples into context would be better. No examples at all is worse. Belbury (talk) 13:58, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Given that all of the sources cited currently seem to be describing cloud computing rather than whatever 'as a service' is supposed to mean beyond being marketing-speak (if it actually does mean anything), it is questionable whether a separate article is needed at all. AndyTheGrump (talk) 14:12, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I added a couple of the most prominent forms to the existing text. These are really just marketing buzzwords that all equate to Cloud computing, yes. In fact the section Cloud_computing#Service_models is a better article on this topic than this article is. MrOllie (talk) 14:57, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In which case, 'As a service' should be a redirect there. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:04, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. But I would wait for things to settle before doing that. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 18:19, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I would support that as well. MrOllie (talk) 18:47, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Noting the list was copied without attribution into a new article, related AFD at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of types of businesses using the "as a service" business model - MrOllie (talk) 00:59, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@AndyTheGrump, Pppery, and MrOllie: Did I do good? 🤡 —Alalch E. 19:00, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've nominated the category for deletion: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 December 9#Category:As a service—Alalch E. 23:04, 9 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]