Talk:Assault Amphibious Vehicle

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Bogged down?[edit]

Is there any truth to the rumours that, during when operating in the Gulf, these vehicles often became beached or bogged down in soft sand due to their weight? Rob cowie 16:26, 10 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The track on this vehicle is wide and long and therefore does not create a lot of ground pressure (pounds per square inch). Any vehicle can get stuck, and some AAVs did in the gulf. I never saw one stuck in sand though. Only in wet clay. In my experience, AAVs were always the last ones to get stuck. 5-ton trucks, Humvees and LAVs get stuck much more easily.Ansalander (talk) 07:09, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Combat Use in Falklands war[edit]

Twenty U.S.-built LVTP-7s were used by Argentina during the 1982 invasion of the Falkland Islands with all of them returning to Argentina mainland before the war ended. - I remembered something about the Royal Marines destorying one or more during the defence of Port Stanley. Can someone verify? Bankrobber 05:15, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

None vehicle was destroyed as is explain in 1982 invasion of the Falkland Islands --Jor70 (talk) 21:23, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Aluminium armour[edit]

The articles tells that this vehicle has an armour of 45 mm, but it armour is made of aluminum, not of steel. Its armour is weak. Its side can be perfured even by armour piercing Ammunition of rifles.Agre22 (talk) 12:07, 9 September 2009 (UTC)agre22[reply]

The article doesn't claim that the armor is aluminum. If it's true that needs to be sourced and added. 173.164.86.190 (talk) 20:23, 6 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The armor is primarily aluminum, but contains some magnesium as well. Yes, the armor IS weak. We were trained that a 7.62x51 round could penetrate the armor if within 100 yards and at a zero oblique. This weakness was one of the reasons for the addition of the Enhanced Applique Armor Kits, first used in the amphibious landing in Somalia in 1991.Ansalander (talk) 06:59, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ansalander, there was an earlier version of the bolt-on armor. Unlike the corrugated "EAAK" armor, this consisted of heavy double-layered screens. This was widely used in the First Gulf War. - Scott Sprague — Preceding unsigned comment added by Scott Sprague (talk • contribs) 22:25, 27 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Sources? References?[edit]

Hi, this interesting (and extensive!) article is sorely unreferenced. Can the key contributors please provide verifiable sources and citations? Will tag accordingly.
Thanks, DPdH (talk)

Amphibious Assault vs. Assault Amphibious[edit]

The title of the page is Amphibious Assault Vehicle, yet nearly every reference I have seen calls it Assault Amphibious Vehicle, including all of our links at the bottom. Is there a reason for this discrepency? If this was just a mistake of the page creator, how would I go about changing the name of the page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jklharris (talk • contribs) 11:25, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Proper name is Assault Amphibian Vehicle. I'm new at this, but I can probably get a suitable citation for that fairly quickly.Ansalander (talk) 07:01, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Even the first citation in the article points to the name Assault Amphibious Vehicle (and its the official USMC page for the vehicle). It looks like this article should be moved to an article of the proper title.Something Original (talk) 19:20, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I'll change all the Wikilinks if this name change sticks. Marcus Qwertyus 20:38, 2 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

MTCP 3-10C Employment of Amphibious Assault Vehicles (AAVs), dated 2 May 2016, uses "amphibious assault" for the vehicle, and "assault amphibian" for the units (eg, Assault Amphibian Battalion). See https://www.marines.mil/Portals/1/Publications/MCTP%203-10C%20Formerly%20MCWP%203-13.pdf?ver=2017-10-31-095622-147. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.153.40.58 (talk) 02:17, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(It also says there are three in the crew, not four: The senior crewman is the vehicle commander or crew chief (who also serves as gunner), second senior is the driver, and the third crewman has various duties which include watching for leaks and keeping the passengers in line.) 104.153.40.58 (talk) 02:43, 26 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

bit of POV in the pic of Argentine marines[edit]

the Falkland Islands are called the Falkland Islands internationally, not the "Islas Malvinas" if the argentines had won the invasion perhaps that would be the name now, but since they lost really badly, and the pro british resident people of the island call them the Falkland Islands, i'll change the name in the photo 46.64.199.69 (talk) 12:49, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Additional section covering mishaps[edit]

We should add a section covering the known accidents and mishaps with the vehicle type. Oceanic84 (talk) 21:14, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Naming confusion[edit]

Janes Armour and Artillery refers to this as the "LVTP7 Armoured Amphibious Assault Vehicle" in 1985, as the "United Defense LP AAV7A1 (LVTP7A1) Amphibious Assault Vehicle" in 2002, and as the "BAE Systems US Combat Systems AAV7A1 (LVTP7A1) Amphibious Assault Vehicle" in 2011.[1][2][3]

Hunnicutt says "In late 1984, the Marine Corps changed the nomenclature and the LVTP7A1 became the assault amphibian vehicle personnel Model 7A1 (AAVP7A1)."[4]

The former official Marine Corp's fact file on the AAVP7A1 also calls it the Assault Amphibian Vehicle.

Trade magazines and newsletters I have searched don't seem to use any one name consistently.

It is unusual for there to be so many names for one armored fighting vehicle. What gives?Schierbecker (talk) 03:32, 21 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It was called the "Assault Amphibious Vehicle" by United Defense. Schierbecker (talk) 02:47, 16 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  1. ^ Foss, Christopher F., ed. (1985). "Armoured Personnel Carriers". Jane's Armour and Artillery 1985–86 (6th ed.). London: Jane's Publishing Company. p. 420. ISBN 0-7106-0820-9.
  2. ^ Foss, Christopher F., ed. (2002). "Armoured Personnel Carriers (Tracked)". Jane's Armour and Artillery 2002–2003 (23th ed.). Surrey: Janes Information Group. p. 407. ISBN 0-7106-2425-5.
  3. ^ Foss, Christopher F., ed. (2011). "Armoured Personnel Carriers (Tracked)". Jane's Armour and Artillery 2011–2012 (32nd ed.). Surrey: Janes Information Group. p. 478. ISBN 978-0-71062-960-9.
  4. ^ Hunnicutt, Richard Pearce (15 September 2015) [1999]. "The LVTP7 Family". Bradley: A History of American Fighting and Support Vehicles. Battleboro, VT: Echo Point Books & Media. p. 356. ISBN 978-1-62654-153-5.
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