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A fact from Bald–hairy appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 4 October 2011 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that for the last 186 years the rulers of Russia succeeded each other in the bald – hairy sequence?

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Annie Rauwerda (21 October 2022). "Russian Oligarchs Keep Dying in Suspicious Ways. Wikipedia Is Keeping a List". Slate (magazine). If you observe that Russian leaders have alternated between bald and hairy for the past two centuries, you can't fill Wikipedia with your independent research. Instead, you'd have to find and cite the various sources that discuss the well-established pattern (which, by the way, is discussed in the Wikipedia article "Bald-hairy").

Opening heading[edit]

Is the spacing on either side of the en dash necessary? Neither element has a space within itself; according to MOS:ENDASH no additional space is necessary. Daniel Case (talk) 17:57, 4 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Andropov and Prince Lvov[edit]

Neither Andropov nor Prince Lvov, both in this list as 'bald', were in fact bald. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.223.13.73 (talk) 23:03, 4 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Andropov was partially bald (stage 4A or thereabouts on Norwood scale). --Itinerant1 (talk) 01:01, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Originally this joke referred to the soviet era only, and the first one in the sequence was Lenin. Also, Lvov and Andropov (as well as Kerensky and Chernenko) were short-term leaders and thus are somewhat minor figures of Russian history, in comparison to the rest of the leaders. See the image of matryoshkas: all four are missing from the set. Andrey Kartashov (talk) 17:48, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Blog link[edit]

A link was removed by User:Greyhood [1] due to presuuposed unreliability of blog sources. I strongly believe it should be restored: though published in a blog, it's an interview with a prominent Russian cartoonist Denis Osokin, hold by a professional reporter, and the blog is not some random personal page, but a column at the website of Echo Moskvy, a popular Russian broadcaster. Andrey Kartashov (talk) 18:13, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've moved it from inline citations to external links as there was need to do so for DYK posting. Feel free to re-add it inline if you find it appropriate. GreyHood ^Talk 11:46, 6 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move[edit]

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No consensus to move. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:09, 13 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Bald–hairy → Bald – hairy The article is not about a bold-hairy creature, but about a sequence of distinct bald and hairy men. Spacing also corresponds to the usage in Russian. GreyHood ^Talk 17:49, 6 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Per MOS:DASH, we only space dashes when it helps resolve ambiguity. There's no ambiguity here, so there's no need for the spaces. Powers ^T 23:08, 6 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per Powers. This is a pure MOS issue; spaced endashes look too wierd. --Ohconfucius ^¡digame! 01:58, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per MOS. Rennell435 (talk) 02:28, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WP:NDASH "In compounds when the connection might otherwise be expressed with to, versus, and, or between". --♫Greatorangepumpkin♫_Hey ^{it's me} 11:01, 10 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Bald - Full head of hair?[edit]

Hairy means "with a lot of hair". That's not what 'volosatyj' means in Russian, so is the title really accurate? "Full head of hair" seems more appropriate. Not punchy, but appropriate. Malick78 (talk) 18:31, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No, I don't think so. 'Volosatyj' can also refer to body hair. For example, "hairy legs" is "volosatyje nogi". "Hairy" is a perfectly appropriate translation. 194.226.199.61 (talk) 11:04, 13 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Missing people[edit]

In the brief interim period between Stalin and Khrushchev there were two interim Heads of State. First bald Beria, then hairy Malenkov. Thus the sequence goes ...Stalin(hairy)-Beria(bald)-Malnkov(hairy)-Khrushchev(bald)... 41.133.47.225 (talk) 09:27, 20 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done, 6 years later. Sir Magnus (talk) 14:06, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Putin's two photos[edit]

There should be two different photos of Putin. The first should be a photo of him in 2000 and the second in 2012. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.160.91.217 (talk) 21:33, 5 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Alexander II[edit]

Surely he is balding? john k (talk) 13:29, 27 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That is an unfortunate portrait. Isn't there one of him when he came to the throne? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.133.0.18 (talk) 08:05, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This is a year after his accession in 1856: link can someone create a crop of it? Robef (talk) 23:00, 12 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Definitely looks much better with that picture. Zell Faze (talk) 16:18, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Could this have a better title...[edit]

?--Jack Upland (talk) 08:48, 24 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Chernenko is missing.[edit]

Chernenko is missing. That's why pattern is broken after Andropov. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.222.99.106 (talk) 22:35, 30 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

His picture was removed because of copyright concerns, and then he was deleted. I have restored him, with the picture that is used for his article. Apparently the picture is acceptable there, so it should be OK here. If there is no acceptable picture, he shouldn't be deleted because that would break the pattern, as pointed out above.--Jack Upland (talk) 04:43, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

He has now been deleted again. It is irrational to delete him entirely merely because of the picture. Leave the picture off if you must, but don't delete the mention of Chernenko because it breaks the pattern and disappears part of history.--Jack Upland (talk) 17:03, 31 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Jack, I agree. I’ve added him back in sans photo - hopefully he’ll remain this time. Ardeninian (talk) 22:34, 2 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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“most likely”?![edit]

“While this pattern is most likely a coincidence, it has held true since 1825”

Erm - what universe would we be in if this were not a coincidence? (20040302 (talk) 14:30, 30 August 2021 (UTC))[reply]

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