Talk:Banu Hashim

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Abou Jahil[edit]

Abou jahil was not from the Hashim clan. He was from teh clan of aadi the same clan of Omar ibn Alkhatab.

Jewish tribe?[edit]

The claim in the first sentence that one of the ancestral lines was Jewish is contradicted by the article at the link that says that the tribe in question is NOT a Jewish tribe and is confused for another tribe with a similar, but distinct name. What's the truth here?Tmangray (talk) 19:59, 23 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know. But it sounds to me as if the tribe with the "similar" name might be Al-Nadir. They were a Jewish tribe living in Medina. I can't find the claim that the Najjar were Jewish in any of the readily accessible early Islamic histories, although I have read it on various popular websites. The Najjar were a clan of the Khazraj tribe, who were originally from Yemen and who were mainly polytheistic.Petra MacDonald (talk) 09:21, 20 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Merger proposal[edit]

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The result of this discussion was to Not merge. There seems to consensus against merging. The scope of Hashemites is different from the scope of Banu Hashim and merging one into another would potentially cause problems of undue weight.(non-admin closure) --Lemongirl942 (talk) 05:06, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I propose that Hashemites be merged into Banu Hashim. I think that the content in the Hashemites article can easily be explained in the context of Banu Hashim, and the Banu Hashim article is of a reasonable size that the merging of Hashemites will not cause any problems as far as article size or undue weight is concerned. 78.144.41.254 (talk) 14:17, 29 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose They are better off separately so that you won't have to swim to search for details in one large article. Makeandtoss (talk) 09:08, 10 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Hashemites is clan whilst hashim is person, his clan is quite notable. 108.41.96.184 (talk) 21:47, 2 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Banu Hashim are all the descendants of Hashim ibn Abd Manaf, while this article is about the royal dynasty descended from Sharif Husayn ibn Ali, a very small section of the larger Banu Hashim clan. So I believe it definitely would cause a problem of undue weight. Also, please note that the sample text for a proposed merger is just an example, and not something you should copy word for word. Axiom292 (talk) 05:31, 7 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Umayyads in the tree[edit]

Are the sons of Abd-Shams supposed to be in there? They are not part of the Banu Hashim, are they? --HyperGaruda (talk) 19:01, 27 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Dept. of Divine Security[edit]

...through which God kept him safe from assassination during the early years of his mission... Is Wikipedia claiming a direct hotline to God now? Or is this just ever so slightly biased in a certain direction? Nuttyskin (talk) 23:20, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]