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A fact from Barcroft Boake (poet) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 13 August 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Barcroft Boake, the author of one of Australia's most anthologised poems, hanged himself with a stockwhip a few months after it was published?

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Did you know nomination[edit]

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:53, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Barcroft Boake, author of one of Australia's most anthologised poems, hanged himself with a stockwhip a few months after it was published? Source: for death/timing, ADB; for most anthologised, journal article (paywalled): "Barcroft Boake is the exemplar of the signature poem phenomenon. His poem 'Where the Dead Men Lie' has appeared twelve times [n.b.: second-most behind 'Five Bells']. This poem accounts for Boake’s inclusion in most anthologies; excluding this poem, Boake has had only four other poems anthologised"
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sylvester da Cunha

5x expanded by ITBF (talk). Self-nominated at 18:20, 4 July 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Barcroft Boake (poet); consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Anyone running a double check for copyvio should note that two copy/paste sentences are from a website that itself copied from the article/mirror site, so the check is a false positive. Waiting on QPQ. — MaxnaCarta ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:27, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@ITBF: It's been over a week since the nomination. Please provide a QPQ as soon as possible so that the nomination can proceed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:38, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies now done. ITBF (talk) 09:38, 21 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging reviewer MaxnaCarta to return and finish the review now that the QPQ has been provided. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:34, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@ITBF: all done, please ping in future to ensure the eyes come back. Cheers and well done — MaxnaCarta ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:15, 30 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@MaxnaCarta and ITBF: I think we need a source for the suicide claim. Right now the claim is sourced to he was found hanging and the coroner will have an inquest. Bruxton (talk) 22:37, 3 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Bruxton: Thank you for pinging me. I do see your point of view in that, trictly speaking, the source does not confirm beyond a doubt that it was suicide. I, however, consider the source fine to substantiate suicide. A compromise could be @ITBF: changing the wording to "reported suicide"? "Reportedly hanged himself". Or "presumed to have hanged himself"? Dunno. We are not talking about a tabloid claiming something rumoured about a celebrity here; it seems fairly credible. I reckon it's adequately sourced. ITBF, maybe try to substantiate the claim further to avoid us getting off track here. Cheers — MaxnaCarta ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:36, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Usurped domain?[edit]

Ref 18 Hugh Capel. "Maybe This is the Snowy Horseman," Canberra Times, 25 February 2002 - this throws a 404 error. If you go there and click on "Home" it resolves to this. It seems to have a lot of genuine content on Boake but has been peppered with adverts and the prose has had some very strange additions eg "Boake was also passionate about fixing up and remodeling houses" and "The Intersection of Creativity and Functionality: How Poetry and Garage Door Repair Meet" and "Boake’s poetry is inspired by his experiences as an explorer and a DIY enthusiast, both of which shape his use of language." (The third link on Charlie McKeahnie has same problem.) JennyOz (talk) 12:36, 13 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]