Talk:Battle of Gvozd Mountain

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The Battle of Gvozd Mountain was hardly one of the biggest and bloodiest battles of the middle ages. First of all, AFAIK, there are no sources of the size of either armies participating in it. Second, the battle was likely far more local in character. King Coloman I of Hungary acctualy had support of a considerable part of Croatian nobility in northren part of kingdom, and some legitimacy for Croatian throne, since Coloman's precessor on the Hungarian throne, Ladislaus I, was elected king by Croatian nobles after the death of Dmitar Zvonimir, the last great Croatian king, whose wife, Jelena, was sister of Ladislaus. Petar Svacic was elected as a sort of an "anti- king" by the nobility in southren Croatia, mostly because none of them wanted to see a Hungarian rulling them. But the constant quarreling and a lack of union betwen Croatian nobles, contrsated by determination of Coloman, pretty much determined the outcome of conflict even before it started. It was only in 19th century, during the Illyric rebirth, the strained relationships of Zagreb and Budapest and the rise of Croatian patriotisam that the battle of Gvozd started to be looked upon romanticly as a 'tragic defeat' which marked the fate of Croatia for the next 800 years.

As for 'the huge number of bodies of the dead soldiers covered the whole area of Gvozd Mountain.', this is more or less what happened after every major or minor medival battle. I hardly think this needs to be pointed out.

Petar's curse[edit]

There was a story about croatians generals betrayal a king in that battle. Despair Petar say a curse, that croatians plp shall not have independence and own state in a next 1000 years.

Dlojan 13:04, 16 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, you're thinking of the legend of King Zvonimir's curse. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.249.66.55 (talk) 03:16, 24 May 2007

well what about pacta conventa??? we war not asimmilated... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.1.106.208 (talk) 14:55, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]