Talk:Battle of Mulroy

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Did you know... that the Clan Mackintosh fought against the Clan MacDonald and Clan Cameron in 1688, in what is claimed to have been the last Scottish clan battle?

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by 97198 (talk) 14:35, 31 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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... that in 1688 Kenneth Mackenzie of Suddie was killed leading his Independent Highland Company at the Battle of Mulroy?Source: History of the Camerons, with genealogies of the principal families of the name by Alexander Mackenzie pages 180-183
- ALT1:... that the Highland bagpipe tune "MacDonald took the Brae on them" was inspired by the Battle of Mulroy in 1688? Source: The Prose Works of Sir Walter Scott: Chronicles of the Canongate, Anne of Geierstein, Tales of a Grandfather, page 686, by Sir Walter Scott
- ALT2:... that in 1688 the Clan MacDonald of Keppoch and Clan Cameron defeated the Clan Mackintosh who were supported by the Scottish Government at the Battle of Mulroy? Source: Historical Memoirs of the House and Clan of Mackintosh and of the Clan Chattan, by Alexander Mackintosh-Shaw pages 395-398
- ALT3:... that in 1688 the Clan Mackintosh fought against the Clan MacDonald and Clan Cameron in what is claimed to have been the last Scottish clan battle? Source: [Lynch, Michael, ed. (2011). "Oxford Companion to Scottish History". Oxford University Press. p. 96. ISBN 978-0-19-923482-0]

Comment: Article expanded from 24 November 2019

5x expanded by QuintusPetillius (talk). Self-nominated at 16:35, 8 December 2019 (UTC).[reply]

According to the page history, it was 4,330 bytes before 24 November, and 16,213 at the time of nomination. This is really great work, but not 5x expansion - but I'll ask, if some of the original content included article improvement tags etc. (that by nature inflated the size of the original article), it's close enough to 5x expansion that I'll consider it made it. Though 24 November – 8 December is more than the one-week period, most of the work in expansion was done by 27 November. QuintusPetillius has only had 3 DYKs before, so no QPQ needed - and why I'm going easy on the requirements. Kingsif (talk) 00:07, 22 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thankyou Kingsif. Is there anything I need to do now? Or just wait for clarification? Thanks.QuintusPetillius (talk) 19:11, 22 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, to clarify, I'm asking you if there were tags before you started expanding the page? But yes, with DYK noms, try to nominate within a week of the creation/expansion/promotion. Kingsif (talk) 19:32, 22 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There were no tags before I started expanding. QuintusPetillius (talk) 20:39, 22 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, well then it's a bit too short for 5x expansion, is there any more to add? If not, this might be ineligible. Kingsif (talk) 20:53, 22 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

One thing I can mention is that the existing text in the article before I started writing was completely taken out, so the article was pretty much written from scratch. Therefore the 4,330 bytes that it was originally was completely replaced with new information and re-written.QuintusPetillius (talk) 18:21, 23 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I guess I can accept that since it's only your third nom and it otherwise looks good, just try look over the DYK instructions for future noms. Approving with offline source; I think ALT3 is the best because I find it being the last clan battle the most interesting part. Kingsif (talk) 20:55, 23 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright problem[edit]

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I am heartily sorry to say that it seems the article will need to be rewritten to remove any remaining text by this contributor, since he has verified that the publisher did not license its use. I am blanking the article accordingly and listing it at the copyright problems board. I hope that the contributors to this article will be able to help salvage it. (For more information, see CCI.) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 20:55, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright problem removed[edit]

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Maol Ruadh or Maoile Ruaidh?[edit]

Isn't Maoile Ruaidh the genitive of Maol Ruadh? 89.171.39.202 (talk) 16:04, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Recent changes[edit]

Hi QuintusPetillius, I note that you have been reverting some of hte recent unsourced and unexplained changes. Feel free to work through any or all of the rest. Also feel free to ping me if you hit any issues. Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 18:09, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]