Talk:Ben Graham (footballer)

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College?[edit]

While Ben Graham might have gone to Deakin, he certainly didn't learn to play Aussie Rules, let alone american football there. He would have never even played for the university's football club. University teams do not generally serve as development teams for pro sports here, unlike in the USA. --Robert Merkel 01:13, 19 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose it should be Leopold, because that was were he was drafted to Geelong from, and he learned how to punt at a Jets training camp I'm lead to believe. So perhaps it should be Leopold, that was always quoted in the AFL Record. LPWRHR 08:53, 19 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Universities and professional sports do not go hand in hand in Australia. He wasn't there on a "sports scholarship" and didn't play for any Australian Rules team there (much less an American Football team) so it is completely redundant info in any "NFL career summary". Removed.70.189.213.149 03:20, 13 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

American Football or Footballer?[edit]

I object to him being classed as an American Footballer under his official Wikipedia page. I would argue that his notability in either sport is unclear, on a worldwide scale he is not notable in either, but in Australia he was more notable than he was in America. He wasn't delisted twice in a fortnight in Australia, and was one of the league's better players in his prime, plus a club captain.

I think the article should just be Ben Graham (footballer) if not Australian footballer, but footballer seems more neutral. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deansherr (talk • contribs) 11:16, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I concur he is a footballer and unless there is another Ben Graham who is a better footballer then he should be Ben Graham (footballer)LPWRHR (talk) 13:19, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly. American Football only covers 3 years of his career, while he played AFL for 11 years. He should just be footballer. Can I do this or do I have to wait for someone to come and see it? Sorry about not signing before. --Deansherr (talk) 23:09, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just do it.LPWRHR (talk) 06:20, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If anyone knows how to do it, they should asap.LPWRHR (talk) 06:39, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

 Done—Borgardetalk 13:14, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

He should not be an American Football. He is better known as an AFL player. Maybe it should be sportsman but definitely not American football.LPWRHR (talk) 01:54, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

He's still disambiguated as an American footballer which is wrong considering, as mentioned above, the majority of his sporting career was spent playing Australian rules football. The user who moved the page said in the edit summary that "Footballer" is not neutral because American football players are not called "footballers". Would a good compromise be to have the page entitled Ben Graham (football)? Jevansen (talk) 12:03, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I changed it and someone changed it back immediately? Why? I put it as Ben Graham (football). Is this another case of American self supremacy?--Deansherr (talk) 07:59, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why has this been changed again? Please revert back to Ben Graham (footballer). This best represents his entire career.LPWRHR (talk) 05:23, 6 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

False Statement as a result of poor reference[edit]

"He also became the only player to captain a team in two different professional sports leagues". This quote is incorrect, there are other athletes who have captained teams across sports. Take for example Andy Farrell. Captained in League and Rugby Union. I checked the source of the original statement and it is questionable at best. (Travsuth (talk) 05:01, 18 January 2011 (UTC))[reply]

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