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The article on Jefferson Davis says that Jefferson, not Joseph owned Montgomery. Can someone verify and correct whichever article is in error? MDonfield 06:08, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup[edit]

I just cleaned up the article, removing uncited statements and basically streamlining the whole thing to get it up to standards. --Dcowboys3109 (talk) 07:20, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

oh, and joseph was the owner of montgomery ^^^ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dcowboys3109 (talkcontribs) 07:21, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

John Stephens[edit]

Can someone please explain the connection with John Stephens?Wellesradio 23:23, 4 September 2007 (UTC)Wellesradio[reply]

who? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.246.114.80 (talk) 02:22, 18 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Both invented boat propellers. I'm removing the link as irrelevant. -173.3.112.55 (talk) 16:19, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

More details of Ben Montgomery's time with the plantation and correction of the lose[edit]

I'm currently doing a history class in which our professor actually devoted quite some time to Benjamin Montgomery. The textbook we're using as well talks about him for a good portion of the first chapter. The textbook is: U.S. A narrative history Vol. 2 since 1865. The textbook elaborates much more on his success as a plantation owner, stating that he and his sons eventually had acquired over 5000 acres, making them the third largest planters in their state. I'll look through the textbook's bibliography, but I think this should be in the Wiki article. Also, the wiki currently says that the Montgomery's lost the plantations(their were two: Brierfield and Hurricane) to Jefferson Davis after they couldn't make the payments. According to the textbook and our professor, they actually lost the plantations due to Jefferson Davis having sued in 1875 to invalidate the sale of Brierfield. Davis wan't initially able to accomplish this until the overthrow of Mississippi's Radical government, which became dominated by a white conservative majority. I'm new as an editor of Wikipedia and I want to respect the procedure and protocol to possible get this added. Could I maybe get some help in looking in the validity of the textbook's and my professors claims on Mr. Montgomery? Thanks! Jjstratton (talk) 02:57, 24 February 2011 (UTC) JJ[reply]

Confederate Patent Law[edit]

I had read elsewhere that, shortly after Jeff Davis became President of the CSA, he had the Confederate Congress pass a law that allowed slaves to be granted patents. Josh-Levin@ieee.org (talk) 14:52, 28 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Montgomery “commits unconscionable treason to his race in surrendering his franchise.” -Frederick Douglass[edit]

The ‘Mississippi Plan’ to keep Blacks from voting in 1890: ‘We came here to exclude the Negro’

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2021/05/01/mississippi-constitution-voting-rights-jim-crow

At the convention, one delegate candidly summarized the dilemma of White Democrats: “It is no secret that there has not been a full vote and a fair count in Mississippi since 1875 – that in plain words, we have been stuffing ballot boxes, committing perjury…carrying the elections by fraud and violence.”

He suggested a way to weed out “unqualified” voters, proposing to require that a voter “must read and write the English language or he is debarred from the privilege of voting.” Most of the state’s African Americans were former slaves who had been denied an education.

Men who can’t read “are not of character to entrust the ballot,” the Clarion-Ledger agreed. “A plan of this kind would disenfranchise few White people, denying the ballot only to the idle and thriftless class.”

The convention adopted a provision that a qualified voter must “be able to read any section” of the state constitution, or “shall be able to understand the same when read to him.” A voter also could be questioned to determine his literacy.

The convention also adopted a $2 poll tax (equal to about $58 today) that disproportionately eliminated Black voters, most of whom were very poor.

The only African American delegate, Isaiah Montgomery, supported these requirements. He had been enslaved by the brother of Confederate president Jefferson Davis of Mississippi. Montgomery, an educated and successful businessman, said that Mississippi’s uneducated Blacks would approve of the restrictions for the good of the state.

Montgomery’s optimistic view was that African Americans would be treated equally as their education level rose. “The two great races shall peaceably travel side by side, each mutually assisting the other to mount higher,” he declared in a nationally publicized speech at the convention. Revered Black abolitionist Frederick Douglass said Montgomery “commits unconscionable treason to his race in surrendering his franchise.” Earlier African Americans from 40 counties in Mississippi had protested to President Benjamin Harrison, but he declined to intervene.

Xardox (talk) 09:48, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Notes[edit]

Two of his daughters, one (Mary Booze) married to Benjamin P. Booze, and the other Estelle, feuded over his home. They were even arrested for poisoning him. The home is part of Mound Bayou Historic District. One of his other daughters and his son-in-law Eugene P. Booze were killed in violence associated with the feud. FloridaArmy (talk) 16:37, 11 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]