Talk:Bian er chai

A fact from Bian er chai appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 25 July 2021 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the Ming-dynasty-era homoerotic short-story anthology Bian er chai was written by the Moon-Heart Master of the Drunken West Lake?

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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by MeegsC (talk) 11:40, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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~~... that in the homoerotic short story collection Bian er chai, one can find the words of "Haha What Can You Do About Fate"?~~

Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Zenopontonia soror

Created by Kingoflettuce (talk). Self-nominated at 16:23, 14 June 2021 (UTC).[reply]

This is more of a comment than a review, but I'm not sure if the hook is going to work, even if it's interesting. Technically the subject is about a work of fiction, and the hook as currently written doesn't suggest a real-life connection. One possible solution could be to specify that the words were part of the annotations, but even then I'm not sure if that would sufficiently satisfy the real-world connection requirement. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:38, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Technically "Haha What Can You Do About Fate" was the pseudonym of the commentator Kingoflettuce (talk) 12:47, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

In any case the hook needs to be revised. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:00, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Any suggestions please? Kingoflettuce (talk) 09:15, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I actually think something referring to the oddly-named commentator may be interesting, if worded differently:

ALT1 ... that copies of the homoerotic short story anthology Bian er chai are interspersed with commentary from an individual calling themself "The Daoist Master Haha What Can You Do About Fate"?

Additionally, the pseudonym of the author is interesting in its own right:

ALT2 ... that the Ming dynasty-era homoerotic short story anthology Bian er chai was written by The Moon-Heart Master of the Drunken West Lake?

/Tpdwkouaa (talk) 21:43, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Article checks out on requirements and no close paraphrasing was detected. QPQ has been done. Hooks are cited inline and sourced to books which are AGF accepted. Both of Tpdwkouaa's hooks (which I've labeled ALT1 and ALT2) are approved and either can be approved at the promoter's discretion; striking the original hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:30, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]