Talk:Bill Schmeisser

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July 23, 2009	Good article nominee	Listed

A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on May 21, 2009.

The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that lacrosse coach "Father Bill" Schmeisser was known for carrying an umbrella on the sidelines regardless of the weather, reasoning that, "This way I know it won't rain"?

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Overall this article is good, however I found a few things that need fixing:

In terms of referencing, it looks like several sentences use the same ref so it's only mentioned once. That's fine by my standards, though other GA reviewers may disagree so be cautious with that.

I realize you agree this is an acceptable way of citation, but just an explanation: I believe that in-line citations are not required after every sentence if the source does not change. The exception would be quotations, which require a citation directly after each one. Above all, common sense should guide the use of citations, and I think, it is generally clear in this case. If you feel an instance is unclear, please let me know and I will rectify it. Strikehold (talk) 13:52, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Any reason for his apparent taking 1904 off?

From what I understand from the sources, he played lacrosse as an undergraduate from 1900 until 1902 when he received his bachelor's (so, I assume that would be his sophomore through senior years). Then, when he was attending graduate school in 1905, he played an additional season. I'm not sure if college eligibility played any role in this or not, because I'm not sure if there were rules for it in lacrosse at this early stage. I know there were not for college football. Strikehold (talk) 07:00, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In regards to the image, I would think that finding a PD image would be rather easy, since he coached mainly before 1923. Too bad there's no date on the current image.

I'll look again, but the only one I could find before is the one used, which as you point out, doesn't have a date. Strikehold (talk) 11:33, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Checked again, and can't find anything. Strikehold (talk) 13:52, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"In 1904, Schmeisser authored a book on the sport which became its standard textbook for the next fifty years." Any info about the book, like a name? Should have a citation too if it was the standard.

Good point. I added the title and a source naming it (specifically, by title) as such. Strikehold (talk) 11:33, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The information on the 09-23 gap seems scant. What was he doing during this time?

I honestly can't say anything specific from the sources or find much else available online. My guess is that he was, in lacrosse, mostly doing administrative work as per his positions in the USILA. Other than that, keep in mind that he had a full-time law career. Lacrosse at this time had a very amateur-focused nature. Strikehold (talk) 11:33, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'll put the article on hold, and pass it when this is fixed. Wizardman 18:50, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I'll address these over the next few days, and respond here when I'm done. Strikehold (talk) 07:00, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I believe I have addressed these all now, so I am ready for you to review and adjust recommendations as necessary. Thanks. Strikehold (talk) 13:52, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It does look better now, so I'll pass this as a GA. Wizardman 14:42, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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