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refs for Bir Salim 1337/1482[edit]

apparently not in SWP, or in census 1931
Kark Pal Land p365 (i will add).
800m south of Beer Ya'acov in 1939.
apparently a headquarters for Allenby [1]

Zero^talk 07:57, 30 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, Khalidi, p370 mentions that it was a headquarter for Allenby. I assume that is the reason Matson-collection has pictures from the area; the "American Colony" -people often took pictures of what would be of specific English/American interest. Cheers, Huldra (talk) 11:35, 30 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently the place was actually owned by a German group who built an orphans house on the territory prior to World-War I, and was hosting Armenian children. Portions of the land was sold to Jews in the nearby village, and during World-War II, the Brits shut down the place as it did for many other properties owned by Germans in Palestine at the time. From that point on, place was used by the British colonial army until 1948, when Jews took the location to ensure Jordanian army will not concur it. Bir-Salim in Arabic is a direct translation of the name the Germans name gave the place 'Well-of-Peace' (Brunnen des Heils). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zakiem (talk • contribs) 21:56, 24 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Can you suggest sources? I see this one. Zero^talk 00:03, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The relationship between the name "Bir Salim" and "Brunnen des Heils" seems too close to be a coincidence, but the Arabic name seems to be the common personal name Salim rather than the word for peace. (I'm writing without complete confidence.) Zero^talk 09:27, 25 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Palestinian Village?[edit]

Actually Bir Salem (Bir Salim) was not a Palestinian Viallge, but a large German Farm with a small orphanage, a branch of the Syrian Orphanage in Jerusalem. This is quite clear. Check the German Wikipedia. The article Netzer Sereni contains lots of information about Bir Salem. Even if you consider the historical buildings that still exist the case is evident. Check this: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netzer_Sereni — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andreas Butz (talk • contribs) 13:37, 19 November 2018 (UTC) Andreas Butz (talk) 13:39, 19 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Netzer Sereni was established on the land of this depopulated Palestinian village. In the 1945 census there were 410 Muslim residents in the village. The Philistaic Orphanage was founded in Bir Salem and included a large amount of agricultural land, but it was in fact a Palestinian village prior to it being depopulated by May 9 1948. nableezy - 16:49, 19 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]