Talk:Birds Mosaic (Jerusalem)

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Suggest thoroughly reworking it[edit]

@Ar2332, Yerevantsi, Davidbena, Gilabrand, and Yoninah: It has a few good points, but most is not the way articles are put together now. No inline sources, a lot of "writing from memory" and interpreting according to one's inspiration and disparate information (what's Sevastopol in Crimea got to do with it? Israel is full with comparable mosaics, as is Jordan, which is by far closer, in every respect. Did Byzantine mosaic art develop in "Israel"?)

The best interpretation would be Nira Stone's article, she's the specialist and she sees the bigger picture, far better than, say, Jerome Murphy-O'Connor.

Tamar Hayardeni has an excellent picture of the entire mosaic floor, but I couldn't import it - it's in the Hebrew article and on her user page, all in Hebrew, and the license doesn't allow it to be imported to Wiki commons. Just keeping the name, BirdsMosaic7.jpg, and placing "File:" or "Image:" before it doesn't work. Solution, anyone?

TITLE: A scholar in the history of Byzantine and Armenian art from Israel, Nira Stone wrote in 1984 that the mosaic is popularly known as "the Armenian Mosaic" or "the Bird Mosaic", but her illustration has, as expected, the caption "The Musrara mosaic". I came across it in English and German guide books as the "Armenian mosaic"; "Bird Mosaic" is probably how it's known in Hebrew. In scholarly sources it's always "Musrara Bird Mosaic" or "Musrara Mosaic". Hardly anyone outside Wiki uses the plural, "birds". Gideon Avni seems to be the only academic source using "Bird Mosaic", and he's been translated from Hebrew. We need redirects for all those names, and maybe use as title "Bird Mosaic (Jerusalem)", which right now gets slightly more hits than all others.

How is the access now? 2009 is quite long ago. And so forth. Volunteers? I'm placing several good sources in the article, but won't be able to go much farther than that. Cheers, Arminden (talk) 00:53, 4 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]