Talk:Black Orpheus

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Jazzstandard[edit]

black orpheus is a jazzstandard, too, so in the realbook

Controversy[edit]

The depiction of Brazil in the film is fairly controversial (and was even at the time of release). Many thought it was candy-coated. I'll try to add a section on this soon - AKeen 03:39, 24 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you hadn't said it, I would've. Caetano Veloso (who, as the article states, apparently did the music for the remake) says as much in his autobiography, that it was sort of a caricature of Brazil.--4.245.19.3 07:47, 16 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Pseudo headings[edit]

As BMK wont discuss this, I'm raising this here. Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Accessibility#Headings clearly states "Do not make pseudo-headings using bold or semicolon markup." Until BMK can show me something that goes against this, the MOS will be applied. Thanks. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 17:14, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A "pseudo-heading" using a semi-colon fouls up screen readers because the semi-colon creates a definition out of the text which follows, which is confusing and doesn't searve the article. One made with bold simply creates a bolded word, which is acceptable, especially when it's followed by a bulleted list. A bold word followed by a list doesn't confuse the screen-reader, or the "reader" who is listening to it. In this respect, ACCESS, which is a guideline and not mandatory for good reason, is incorrect in advising against the use of bold. BMK (talk) 17:16, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have restored the MOS-complaint, and accessible, headings. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 17:22, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 17:23, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It's quite cleary shown in the fourth table (titled "Pseudo-headings") that using bolding to make a heading is wrong, so it's not acceptable. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 17:22, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, do the two concepts: "MOS is not mandatory" and "In this case, MOS is wrong" not mean anything to you? Are you familiar with WP:IAR? No, don't answer, I understand your motivation entirely, how petty. BMK (talk) 17:25, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Just a note for other editors. Lugnuts has been banned from my talk page since January 16, 2014, yet persists in trying to "discuss" things there, knowing that I will revert his edits without reading them. He then uses that against me as he did here, saying "BMK won't discuss this", which is, if nothing else, intellectually dishonest. BMK (talk) 17:24, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You kept a note of the date?! Well, as long as you don't have any issues. How quaint. Lugnuts ^{Dick Laurent is dead} 17:29, 26 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Primitivism controversy[edit]

When you write the controversy section, do your homework on primitivism and post colonial studies. To say it is "candy coated" is not very scholarly. First, to what extent was the original playwright from a privileged class rather than a favela dweller? Then, there is the whole question of a French modernist looking to escape the failure of Western civilization after 2 world wars - how does he shape Brazil into a care-free, sexualized paradise/society (vs. the "remake" which deliberately engaged with the problems of society). How is slum life framed by the West? There are scholarly articles on this and many yet to be written. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.240.250.63 (talk • contribs) 04:41, March 30, 2007 (UTC)

Can you please provide some references on this - I'd be very interested to read them! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.76.213.205 (talk) 23:32, 18 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Right now there is no controversy section, though there could be. I'm certainly aware that the film has been criticized. The term "candy-coated" comes from another editor's Talk comment in 2006 (above), not from the article,so it doesn't really matter if that is the best term to use or not. Also, keep in mind that the point of an article is not to do an analysis of the work, but to provide an encyclopedic view of of the work, which may include a summary of important scholarly positions on the article. To move this forward, it would be helpful to have secondary sources that talk about the film from the perspective you reference. David.thompson.esq (talk) 22:40, 20 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

<Sigh!> It's truly disappointing that, after all these years, this section has never been written. Barack Obama's intriguing remarks (reported in the "Influence" section) are notable in their own right -- but it would be so much better to present them in the context of the larger controversy. Surely there must be a knowledgable editor out there who could undertake this sorely needed task! Anomalous+0 (talk) 19:10, 21 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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