Talk:Bombardment of Samsun

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Background[edit]

This article needs a background paragraph. I'll call the editor. Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 20:01, 26 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This article needs reviewing. There is no mention of this event in the articles Mark Lambert Bristol, Samsun and Timeline of the Turkish War of Independence. True, in the article Greek cruiser Georgios Averof it is mentioned that the crusier was involved in the bombardment of Black Sea coast to help to evacuate Greeks. But wheras it was a momentary clash, here it is claimed that the battleships stayed in stay in Samsun till March 1923. (9 months) which is hard to believe. On the other hand a very different version of the story has been summerized in the page Vesikalar [1].Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 11:25, 27 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I know it needs to be expanded, but for now I am very pressed with my studies for university. I will get to it but I don't know when, if you could help out it would be greatly appreciated. All the best. (Central Data Bank (talk))

Indeed, the Turkish source seems more reliable, if for the simple reason that it is utterly inconceivable that US forces would engage in hostile action against Turkey at this point in time. The US had withdrawn from all Allied affairs since 1920, and had even left the Armenians, over whom Wilson hoped to establish a protectorate, to their fate... Constantine ✍ 07:08, 1 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • The United States however did provide Naval support for the allies during the course of the war.

Linked from Samsun page Jzlcdh (talk) 17:22, 21 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

U.S. Navy destroyer at Samsun[edit]

Please see this article:

"The Navy and Business, an address by Admiral Robert E. Coontz, Chief of Naval Operations" United States Naval Institute Proceedings, vol. 48, no 6, June 1922, pp. 990-991.

Also see New York Times articles relating to the bombardment, "Greeks Explain Attack" June 11, 1922, and "90 Casualties in Samsun, American Officer's Report Differs from Greek Account of Bombardment" June 12, 1922.

Also check Dictionary of American Naval Fighting Ships for info on destroyers Parrott, Edsall, and others in the DD-200 hull number series that were in the Black Sea.

A U.S. Navy destroyer was present, but DID NOT take part in the bombardment. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.93.226.211 (talk) 20:47, 14 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Deletion of article[edit]

I think this is not a battle let a lone a part of the Turkish War of Independence, it was simply an incident where Americans showed up and Greeks got briefly involved and was simply a happening event during but not part of the Turkish War of Independence. (N0n3up (talk) 05:28, 3 November 2017 (UTC))[reply]

It was one of several bombardment incidents on the Black Sea coast in 1921-1922 in order to protect the local Christian element due to the ongoing genocide perpetrated by the Turkish national movement.Alexikoua (talk) 12:09, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Of course it was. But this was something that was happening apart of the Turkish War of Independence. In this case, The Greeks should be considered the only belligerents since the US was only there to look after the Americans in the region, something completely separate from what was happening in Anatolia. Mentioning the Americans in the infobox would be gratuitous since they were simple interlopers, one with different goal than the Greeks. In that case, I should've changed the name of the talk to "deletion of American involvement due to their miniscule role in the conflict" instead. (N0n3up (talk) 03:30, 4 November 2017 (UTC))[reply]
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