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==WP Tax Class==

Start class because needs more references, otherwise pretty good, B to Good article.EECavazos 20:26, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

==WP Tax Priority== Low priority because this is a bit of a colloquial way of saying "smuggling" but distinguishes it enough by limiting to largely the UK.EECavazos 20:27, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

A mid priority article would cover smuggling in general in the UK, not just instances of people finding a better effective price across the English Channel. This priority relates to the article's taxation content.EECavazos 20:51, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Trying to find a better price without direct reference to taxation would not square directly with WikiProject Taxation. The most taxation-specific content for the project one could derive from the article's content is how to distinguish booze cruises from smuggling.EECavazos 21:02, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Lower taxes on some products making such products cheaper in one country than another is only of indirect importance to taxation. Direct reference to taxation of those products requires an approach on the commodity level or between merchants, which would justify a mid priority.EECavazos 21:07, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments. In response:

  1. The need for more references has been noted, I don't disagree.
  2. "Booze cruise" is certainly not smuggling, if we are using common terms. Smuggling is, IMO, seeking to avoid import duties illegally or transporting forbidden goods across a border. "Booze cruise" is neither. It's a legal way of benefitting from lower prices across an international border, in this case within the EU. I beleive that the equivalent in the US is to shop in an area with a lower sales tax - much the same idea.
  3. Expanding the article to "cover smuggling in general in the UK" is therefore inappropriate and outside the scope of the article.
  4. I don't understand "Direct reference to taxation of those products requires an approach on the commodity level or between merchants ..." Please explain to an ignoramus.
  5. The article seeks to explain the expression, its context and its impacts. I would accept that this might be of minor interest to "Taxation", even as a side effect of differential duties/ taxes on popular behaviour and commerce.

Folks at 137 22:54, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

The direct reference to taxation can be found in transfer pricing. There, taxation is an issue that is directly involved. People act because they seek a tax difference in producing goods or selling goods. Here, people get on a boat and cross a channel to buy products that cost less. Taxation is indirectly involved because the lower price is a result of the lower taxes and then they either use those goods for their own benefit, sell those goods (smuggling) or they give them as gifts. If the lower price were a result of a lower wages rather than lower taxes, then this article would not be within the wikiproject but the Booze Cruise would still exist. Since here the issue of taxation is indirectly involved, it is within the scope of the project on taxation. A mid priority article in the wikiproject taxation would cover, in general, the practice of people crossing borders to buy goods that are cheaper as a result of different tax rates. This would involve the sales tax issue in the USA you brought up as well as other cases elsewhere in Europe and South America.EECavazos 23:43, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

One other thing, the number of references usually do not impact priority/importance. The lack of references impact only priority. The number of references in this article does not impact its priority.EECavazos 00:22, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

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