Talk:Bristol F.2 Fighter

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Oxygen[edit]

The quaint idea that first world war aircraft pilots "went onto oxygen" (in this or any other type) at 10,000 feet needs correcting. In fact aircrew frequently coped at 20,000 feet and more with no oxygen at all!! They were a tough lot!

Soundofmusicals 11:01, 8 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism[edit]

Reverted the edit 'The grandma of this plane is known as Mrs. Poopjohneaturface' which had oddly appeared.--Ndaisley 16:07, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Going Places[edit]

Stuck a couple of templates onto article; yes, I know, put your money where your mouth is... I'll try and do just that. It'd be nice to get this article moving up the criteria tree for re-classification. Scoop100 (talk) 21:35, 25 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Scoop - what exactly upsets you about the format of the article? (beside the obvious problem it could do with more references). The Brisfit had a rather complicated development history (basically they couldn't find enough engines for all the ones they wanted to send to the squadrons) - and this leaves the "development section" a little untidy. Otherwise - can you try at least to mend the "problem"?--Soundofmusicals (talk) 06:30, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Survivors[edit]

According to the British Aicraft Directory website, there are three airworthy survivors in the UK, D 7889 and D 8084 at Duxford and D 8096 at Old Warden (the Shuttleworth machine). The relevant page was last updated in 2006, but if it is correct, then this article should also be updated. RASAM (talk) 19:55, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There is now (2017) one more in Australia, with original engine. It is painted in the colors of the RAFC as used in Palestine.202.125.31.66 (talk) 09:27, 21 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright problem removed[edit]

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Text removed was a close paraphrase of Wegg's General Dynamics Aircraft and their Predecessors.Nigel Ish (talk) 19:32, 3 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Engines ?[edit]

The article gives the impression that the Rolls-Royce Falcon was the default engine and that others were tried but were found unsuitable. However - the article states 5,329 aircraft built, but the Falcon article states 2,185 engines built. So is the Falcon production number incorrect, or were there in fact a large proportion of aircraft produced with alternative engines ? Rcbutcher (talk) 17:34, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Bristol M.R.1[edit]

The brief mention of this (quite distinct) type is justifiable as it was often described at the time as an "all-metal Brisfit", and this furphy still crops up from time to time. We do need to mention that it was nothing of the kind. --Soundofmusicals (talk) 03:30, 22 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Intended article re-write commenced[edit]

I am taking it on myself to rewrite this article - in the process redressing faults that a number of well-meant editors (including myself!) have failed to address entirely satisfactorily. Doing this in blocks off-line, rather than piecemeal, I have first attacked the "origins" section, which I leave in place for others' comment. The essential point is that the Brisfit started out as an intended B.E.2 replacement, but that from the time it was uprated by the more powerful engine it was nothing of the kind. Hopefully this is now more clearly and succinctly expressed. I intend to improve the references to this section, too (over-reliance on worthy but very dated writers like Bruce is less than ideal, for instance) either before or after attacking the following sections. --Soundofmusicals (talk) 00:39, 2 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Error in reported sale of aircraft[edit]

I have corrected an error in the reported sale of the original F.2B airframe owned by Ross Walton of Bardstown, Kentucky. He has confirmed to me today that he has not sold his fuselage to the Bristol Museum. He said that the fuselage purchased by the Museum was a second fuselage owned by the same seller from which he bought his airframe. The seller has provided him certification that the fuselage that he bought was original, and is one of the six recovered from Mr. Bottington, who bought six F.2Bs from the British government, and used the fuselages as the roof trusses for a barn in the village of Weston-On-The-Green. Details of this fuselage are here.