Talk:Bryan R. Wilson

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This article primarily consists of attributed quotes which are presented as fact; this makes it inherently POV. The quotations need to be presented as such, with clear distance, and the main article needs to present a neutral point of view.--Eloquence * 14:39, July 19, 2005 (UTC)

Quotes are not facts, if properly attributed. All quotes as far as I can see are attributed, so it is well within NPOV. --Zappaz 18:29, 19 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hagiography[edit]

Obviously, this article is nothing more than a hagiography. In his later years, Wilson became a "gun for hire" by scientology. Examples of his writings:

TOP INTERNATIONAL SCHOLARS DECLARE GERMAN GOVERNMENT IS “NOT QUALIFIED TO DICTATE WHAT IS AND IS NOT A RELIGION”
Apostates and New Religious Movements (don't trust them!)
Expertise on Confidential Religious Writings (claimed that Christianity has "esoteric" components!)
An Authoritative Examination of Scientology’s Religiosity (yes, its a religion!)

And here's an article by Prof. Stephen Kent about Wilson, taking his theories apart: [1]

He was also an "expert witness" in a french trial for scientology [2] - it did not help, several scientologists were convicted. --Tilman 20:38, 3 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

More like this link where Stephen A. Kent takes Wilson's statement that "Scientology is a religion" apart, instead claiming that "Scientology is a multinational corporation". However, this is an example that there are claims that Bryan R. Wilson is not free from faults. (Which is IMHO a realistic position). ... said: Rursus (^mbork³) 19:41, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dr. Bryan Wilson, Oxford University was just one of many schollars that came in defense of Scientology against religious persecution in Germany:

Professor Liliane Voye, University of Louvain
Professor Karel Dobbelaere, Catholic University of Louvain
Professor Dario Sabbatucci, University of Rome
Professor Juha Pentakainan, Helsinki University
Professor (ret.) Arilv Hvivtfeldt, University of Copenhagen
Professor Petro Bilaniuk, University of Toronto
Professor Darrol Bryant, University of Waterloo, Ontario
Professor Lonnie Kliever, Chair of the Department of Religious Studies at Southern Methodist University, Dallas
Professor Frank Flinn, Washington University, St. Louis

That he expresed his opinion doesn't make a gun for hire and his opinion is in the main stream opinion of Scientology by schollars. Is Steven Kent's opinion is actually in the minority.

I believe that his family, students and friends would be very offended of such a an acusation.

Bravehartbear 13:31, 10 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How much money did Wilson and the others receive from scientology for their "work"? --17:18, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

Not enoght to bent the integrity of an Oxford Profesor. Bravehartbear 02:24, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure? ... said: Rursus (^mbork³) 19:27, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

To Tilman's initial comment: yes, if the article is true, B. R. Wilson was certainly a superman, a new son of God, kind of. The article is in some deep need of WP:NPOVization ~ I've marked some of the most obvious boasts with ^{[peacock prose]}, a hagiography is much less valuable than a neutral-in-tone encyclopedic article. ... said: Rursus (^mbork³) 19:27, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not enough sources[edit]

While there's no question as to Wilson's notability, the article is not properly sourced. 2 footnotes are not enough. Ideally, every time a fact is inserted, it should be sourced. Read WP:SOURCE for more information. Drumpler 12:17, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Have identified and added sources for the majority of statements and re-written some of them where they were copied verbatim. Jayen 466 09:41, 13 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]