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Regarding Cal Jet by Elite Management[edit]

There appears to be an edit war going on. It's unclear what SocalFlyer disagrees with in the management section of this article. Are George Wozniak and Timothy Wozniak not the President and VP of Cal Jet by Elite? 76.88.82.246 (talk) 17:53, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

At this point, SoCalFlier and Wozeynw39 will either join this discussion, or if they continue to revert without discussion, be blocked for edit warring (SoCalFlier having already exceeded 3RR, and Wozeynw39 suspected of being the same or a related editor, as the coincidence of their arrival on the scene just after SoCalFlier received an EW warning is incredible). General Ization Talk 18:10, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
user:76.88.82.246 your information regarding them is inaccurate and not relevant, and also does not list them as officers of the company. I know George is but where do you see anything about Tim? I personally asked the CEO Robert Daly about this and he had clarified with me. Have you talked to anyone there or where do you get your information from? Have you flown with them to comment on this? SoCalFlier (talk) 18:21, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
user:SoCalFlier: The San Diego Union Tribune reference (Airline halts Carlsbad to Vegas flights but says it will resume service) states "Cal Jet President George Wozniak said the company decided..." Please explain why you perceive this to be inaccurate.
LinkedIn contains a page for Timmy Wozniak, indicating that he is Vice President Cal Jet by Elite Air, Feb 2017-present, and that he was Founder & CEO of FlyFreshAir, and that he was CEO of FreshJets. (https://www.linkedin.com/in/timmy-wozniak-31a809149/ ). Please explain why you perceive this to be inaccurate.
The referenced legal cases describe George Wozniak and Timothy Wozniak as defendants in the Travelzoo case, and as having settled that case in early 2018. Does this conflict with your perception? Past activities of executives are certainly relevant to their current business operations.
The referenced Denver Post articles describe the fraud and ID theft charges and late 2017 conviction of Timmy Wozniak. Do these articles conflict with your perception? Past criminal activities, especially as recent as a December 2017 felony conviction, are very relevant when an executive takes on the same line of work.
76.88.82.246 (talk) 18:48, 30 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@SoCalFlier: Your personal conversation with an executive of the company cannot be used as a reliable source here; please see No original research. Your demand to know whether the IP has spoken with anyone at the company demonstrates that you do not understand this core principle of Wikipedia. The IP has provided citations of published, reliable sources for all of the information they are adding to the article. Unless you are able to provide citations of reliable sources that contradict the sourced claims the IP has added, and/or establish precisely why they are irrelevant to this article, I will revert Wozeynw39's removal of the information and you and they are warned against again removing the content. Also please note that your declaration concerning your conversation with the CEO has led to a COI warning on your Talk page and the {{connected contributor}} notice above. Please read them both carefully. General Ization Talk 01:49, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@General Ization: It appears that Wozeynw39 has deleted a section. This happened during vandalism block. The deleted info about Cal Jet Elite management looks sourced OK. Not sure how this happened. It looks like you warned that user about this unconstructive behaviour. Would you please revert? Thank you.
@Wozeynw39: Your user name appears similar to "Wozniak" in Cal Jet Elite LLC management. Are you George Wozniak, Timothy Wozniak, or another member of that family? I read the section you deleted after the block went into place. I could understand that if you're one of the Wozniak's mentioned or family that the information is uncomfortable. If it's inaccurate please explain why. But deleting relevant, sourced, accurate info isn't acceptable to keep Wikipedia useful. Thanks.

Proxypivot (talk) 17:14, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism of the Management section of this page has resumed. Refer to above. Proxypivot (talk) 19:42, 30 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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