Talk:California Academy of Sciences

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Assessment[edit]

This would be a B-class article if it had sourcing/citations and a tiny bit of clean-up Wikidemo 22:58, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Now it's at least C. A bit of expansion in the intro and eliminating "citation needed" tags would finish making it into a B, possibly ready for GAN. Donlammers (talk) 14:35, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Minor update and photos[edit]

Just did a minor update of the Public Education section, and changed the photos. The old photos were from the temporary Academy. The new ones are current, and more can be found at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:California_Academy_of_Science. Because the two sites are affiliated, photos from there can inserted into document over here as if the files had already been uploaded here. Wikipedia already knows to look. --Coro (talk) 00:40, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Questionable link[edit]

The National Geographic Channel link in the article does not appear to be about this building. It appears to link to something that just plays a series of videos (including ads). I don't doubt that something about this building is in there somewhere, but the link doesn't seem particularly useful. If someone can work out how to link directly to what was intended, great, otherwise we should just delete it. - Jmabel | Talk 17:50, 24 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Request to supplement with information of practical use to museum visitors[edit]

This article would much better meet the needs of potential visitors to the museum (such as myself) if it were supplemented and organized to make readily accessible pointers to information such as:

- a floor plan,

- detail on the various museum areas, by area,

- hours, admission prices

- special programs currently underway

- a locator showing its position in Golden Gate Park

- Access/biking/transport/parking/security

- Pointers to MP3 & podcast docent-like tours

- Lunch / child arrangements

- Links to information about other potential tour areas close nearby

Docents, recent visitors, San Francisco regulars are especially invited to volunteer information.

I have linked the museum's web page, which provides a very nice presentation of much of the above information.

Each of the key permanent exhibits deserves its own section in the wikipedia article, containing information about, and/or (at least) pointers to the museum's own web pages on each. Should include sections on:

A. Philippine Coral Reef

B. The Swamp

C. Alligator Gars

D. Water Planet

E. Northern California Coast

F. Discovery Tidepool

G. Amazonian Flooded Rainforest

H. Islands of Evolution

I. Science in Action

J. African Hall

K. Pendulum

L. Early Explorers Cove

M. Planetarium

N. Research Lab

O. Rainforests of the World

P. Building Green

Q Climate Change in California

R. Academy Gardens

S. Naturalist Center

T. The Living Roof -- see e.g. http://www.calacademy.org/academy/building/the_living_roof/

68.165.11.69 (talk) 15:49, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

While this article does need work, quite a lot of what you've requested here is non-encyclopedic information that belongs (and can be found) on the museum's own promotional website. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō)ˀ Contribs. 11:21, 22 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Categories[edit]

  • I removed the 'United States National Academies' category as it is a proprietary name (see United States National Academies,) and this article's organization is not one of those academies: that category ([[Category:United States National Academies]]) is for those academies. The phrase is a descriptive name and sounds like it could apply to any national academy, and often gets confused with the name specific to the organization known as the United States National Academies. I too confused its use on another article, and I see others have as well. -- Sctechlaw (talk) 09:04, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Photo of albino alligator[edit]

I realize that this is a featured picture, but the photo makes the alligator appear greenish yellow (due to the yellow lamp which has been cropped out) rather than the actual solid white color it appears when this light is not shining on it. I just got back from seeing it, and the color in this photo is way off. I'm wondering if a color adjustment is needed. To see how much of a difference I am talking about, here is a good photograph of what it actually looks like. Viriditas (talk) 08:44, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I did not crop anything off, and I do not recall seeing any yellow lamp. I tried to adjust the colors File:Albino Alligator 2008 ed2.jpg and File:Albino Alligator 2008 ed1.jpg. That's all I could do.--16:21, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
See Commons:Featured picture candidates/File:Albino Alligator 2008.jpg User:Kallerna originally suggested cropping the light source in the bottom right corner of the image [1] (probably a reflection of the light source in the water) and you fulfilled the users request with "cropped the light" on 19:10, 21 April 2009, and uploaded a cropped version. That's the version the site uses now. I realize you work with a lot of images, so you probably don't remember this. Viriditas (talk) 18:04, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Features of museum retained and added since rebuilding?[edit]

There's a whole section called "Removed features of new building", which is misnamed (they're removed features of the museum since its rebuilding, not features of the building. More importantly, it's overall just suggests that half the interesting stuff in the museum was eliminated, and misleads the reader into thinking that nothing new and innovated was added in the way of exhibits. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō)ˀ Contribs. 11:25, 22 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Morrison Planetarium: here's a fine link re history[edit]

The Academy Projector at the Morrison Planetarium, which was in service from 1952 to 2003, is featured in the article Planetarium Closure Marks End of an Era, by J. M. Ryan. This article could usefully be a source and/or external link. Oaklandguy (talk) 09:53, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not an external link, but a source for narrative. However, if you don't do it yourself, it's not likely to happen. This is WikiPedia. Nobody owns the page, and very few people edit it. Don Lammers (talk) 12:42, 4 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Working on this article... please give feedback/help[edit]

It's been nearly a year since anyone worked on this, so I'm not sure who's watching. I'm doing what I can with the citations, including filling them all out consistently, and adding Wayback Machine links, metadata, and so on. When I've done what I can, I'll see if I can get a copyedit.

The lead specifically needs a major rewrite, as the subject of the article is the 'academy', and the academy operates the museum, which has a different name. Also, the 'list of venues' isn't right....I tried to fix it some, but the website is confusing. Areas that are in the main list are listed as part of each other, etc.

I'm an editor, not a writer, LOL.

The article copy really needs to be reorganized, I think, to present the information better. The 'historical' information should be all in one section, and sorted into subsection sections. there should also be a section about the research, and one about the museum itself. I don't want to mess with changes like that unless someone is paying attention, though. Revent (talk) 11:17, 6 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to see someone working on this. As other comments have mentioned, there is a good amount of non-encyclopedic information that can be removed here (e.g. "Removed features of new building"), and several topics needing expansion, such as the Research department (e.g. collections and notable expeditions), and information on the Planetarium and Steinhart Aquarium. I have a hunch that most of the "Citations needed" can be found in the existing references, especially those from the Cal Academy itself, but more secondary sources would help too (e.g. Newspaper articles) to help reduce the potential for biased coverage. --Animalparty-- (talk) 21:20, 21 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Reversion of recent additions.[edit]

I reverted the recent addition of what I felt excessive external links and internal governance information which both conflict with WP:External link policy, and WP:NOTDIRECTORY, and issues of WP:DUE. An encyclopedia article should be timeless and holistic, give no more than due weight to each topic, not be overloaded with current staff info and exhibits (which could change tomorrow, and borderline trivia more suited to official Academy publications). I realize that there are other long-standing issues, and welcome discussion and efforts to address them, but as a whole the edits caused more issues than they solved. --Animalparty-- (talk) 02:37, 23 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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