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NOTE: While the official name of the university is the University of California, Berkeley, when the school's athletics are involved however, the teams should be referred to primarily as just the University of California or California and secondarily as Cal. The university's sports teams SHOULD NOT be referred to as UC Berkeley, Berkeley, or UCB. University of California, Berkeley should only be used to establish the connection between the Berkeley campus and the Golden Bears.

NFL stars[edit]

This listing needs some edits. Several of the "current NFL stars" listed (Gonzales, Longwell, Best) haven't played in the NFL for a few years. Also, the term "star" seems to be applied rather liberally, as guys like Desmond Bishop can't seem to keep a job for more than one year. Rodgers is probably the only Cal grad who can legitimately be called a "current NFL star," IMHO. This whole section seems to be written with the intent to oversell the program's influence and impact, potentially a NPOV concern. 198.209.0.25 (talk) 17:09, 12 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Update?[edit]

  • It would be appreciated if someone updated the Conference Championships Box, I'm not sure how, but Cal earned a share of the pac-10 chapmionship in 2006 posting a conference record equal to that of usc. (gomfbears)

I added some pictures and moved around the list of sports. --Lrd1rocha 03:46, 31 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There are two different games called 'rugby', one is rugby union which Cal play and the other is rugby league. There is something of a soccer versus football style ambiguity about the word 'rugby' which is why I have altered the word 'rugby' in favour of 'rugby union' in most cases.GordyB 18:30, 6 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Where do the crew teams practice nowadays? What was the original practice site? When did they start and later stop using Aquatic Park? (which didn't exist until the late 1930's)Tmangray 04:22, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

When writing the history it is best to avoid terms such as "currently", "up to", "since" as these are all perfectly good for what is happening at the time of writing but it immediately becomes dated and thus potentially wrong with subsequent changes. There is no easy way of identifying when text was written to determine at what point in time those terms concern. These terms are better expressed with some type of time qualifier to understand what is current of there are no changes and that which needs to be improved if there are changes. If the text has within it when something is qualified as to time period then one does not need to do additional research to see if changes since the original statement have been missed.76.170.88.72 (talk) 11:55, 24 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Rugby[edit]

I don't think that collegiate rugby is under the jurisdiction of the NCAA. I think USA rugby actually operates the system. I could be wrong, but rugby is not listed on the official NCAA website. So those 22 "NCAA championships" are actually just 22 national championships.

Why do you change information in the article if you don't know if the change you are making is correct? And you write "national championships"...to what championships specifically do you refer? No details at all...no way to verify that what you write is true. 09:57, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
Upon futher research, I read college rugby and verified your claim that rugby belongs to USA Rugby. However, the article explicity mentions that Cal participated in at least 27 NCAA Division I championships of rugby. 10:17, 24 July 2006 (UTC)


Well, if you look at the official NCAA sports websites, either ncaasports.com or ncaa.org, rugby is not listed as a sport. Rugby championships also do not figure into the Director's Cup standings, which only accounts for NCAA sanctioned sports.

However, I've found only press releases on Calbears.com that list "Cal hosts NCAA rugby sweet 16," etc., etc. But, in the press release for this year's 22nd national championship victory, there is no mention of the NCAA, only a "collegiate national championship."

I think the wikipage on College rugby is incorrect in listing the championships as "NCAA" championships, if the NCAA has no part in governing the sport.

I'll continue to look for the right answer, and when I find it I'll let you know. It's all very confusing. It might be that USA Rugby uses some NCAA eligibility rules, but only adopted them (the wikipage on college rugby says that athletes can play professionally).

Thanx

I just found this site on Calbears.com

The rugby national championships are not listed as "NCAA" titles. You may check for yourself here http://calbears.cstv.com/trads/cal-nat-champs.html

Rugby is not an NCAA sport (nor is men's crew for that matter). In fact, Cal's team is the only varsity rugby program in the United States, which is part of the reason for their success.

I changed the wording of the comparison between Anderson and Clark's tenure as coaches; previously it said that Clark achieved "even greater" success, however this does not seem like the right choice of words since during his tenure Anderson won the first 4 national championships contested before handing over the reins to Clark. Hard to say that you can achive greater success as a coach than winning each national championship your team played for, so I worded it "even more prolonged" success to reflect this.

How many collegiate rugby teams are there (in the United States)? --Bobak 18:21, 11 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]



FOOTBALL

It says Cal has 2 NCAA championships. Football championships for D-1A are not given out by the NCAA, therefore this is impossible

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