Talk:California Historical Landmarks in Monterey County

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Coordinates[edit]

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The following coordinate fixes are needed for Hill Town Ferry. The current coordinates of 36.629795°, 121.678562° is in Asia.


—50.136.159.179 (talk) 00:43, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. Simple mistake of entering east longitude rather than the correct west longitude. Thanks for pointing out the error. Deor (talk) 11:39, 9 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinate error[edit]

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The following coordinate fixes are needed for location of the Hill Town Ferry landmark. The map location has it as: 36.629795,-121.678562 

I have found the landmark at:

36.631650, -121.669243.

According to the Monterey City Historian, he believe this is accurate and that it is the only such marker in the area. The location needs to be changed. I am not sure how that is done.

The real location is across the freeway between Spreckels Blvd. and Spreckels Lane. The State has it listed as: "Location: On Old Hwy 68, SW corner of Spreckels Blvd and Old Hwy 68 (P.M. 18.1), 3.0 mi SW of Salinas."

I have posted a photo of my find on the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Hilltown,_California page and at the landmark page. You can see it on google maps at: https://www.google.com/maps/place/36%C2%B037'54.4%22N+121%C2%B040'10.3%22W/@36.6313715,-121.6696228,3a,75y,58.47h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sP5tHMRugdMkaR49P0zhY7A!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DP5tHMRugdMkaR49P0zhY7A%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D52.605183%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d36.631775!4d-121.669532 [In the distance, left of center, not far from the power pole.]


—JP (talk) 01:11, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The coordinates you've given are certainly the location of the historical marker, but that needn't correspond to the location of the designated landmark, which both Google Maps and OpenStreetMap show as being to the west of Highway 68. I'm not finding sources on the Web to confirm where the actual ferry was located, so I'm leaving this {{geodata-check}} request open in the hope that someone else can definitively establish the location of the landmark itself. Deor (talk) 15:00, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Coordinate error[edit]

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The following coordinate fixes are needed for Hill Town Ferry. According to http://www.mchsmuseum.com/news/0307.pdf "The stage to Monterey crossed the Salinas River by ferry at Hilltown. Between the river and Salinas, the road “followed the present course, but…was then little more than a wagon trail with turnout places at intervals for traffic to pass.”

The article was written in 1958, and that is the "old" Highway 68. The article mentions the Hill Town Ferry was in Hill Town. Current road maps put the Hill Town area bordering the freeway on the East.

The California government says: Location: On Old Hwy 68, SW corner of Spreckels Blvd and Old Hwy 68 (P.M. 18.1), 3.0 mi SW of Salinas. http://ohp.parks.ca.gov/?page_id=21441

This is why I believe the Historical MARKER is more accurate than the point on the map. (In this specific case. I know markers are not always accurate.) JP (talk) 22:02, 10 January 2017 (UTC)MrWrite[reply]


—JP (talk) 22:02, 10 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

See my comments in the preceding section. Please wait for someone to come along with a good source. (I myself don't see anything in that Monterey County Historical Society newsletter that establishes the exact location of the ferry.) The marker itself can't be at the precise location of the ferry, since it's not even on the river. Deor (talk) 22:51, 10 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Page problems[edit]

This is a long story, so I hope whoever responds to it (if anyone) will bear with me.

Until very recently, the Open Street Map link, which displays a county map with the landmarks indicated by "pushpins," worked very well on both my home and work computers. Then the map would no longer display on my work computer--all I get is a background of pink squares. (This is true on IE, Firefox and Chrome; the problem also applies to the similar links on the "National Register of Historic Places listings in [] County" and "List of National Historic Landmarks in California" articles.) Everything continued to work fine on my home computer, so of course I assumed the system at work had developed some kind of bug.

On "Inspect"ing the problem, I got this message:

[Report Only] Refused to load the script 'https://openstreetmap.org/openlayers/OpenStreetMap.js' because it violates the following Content Security Policy directive: "default-src 'self' 'unsafe-eval' 'unsafe-inline' blob: data: filesystem: mediastream: *.toolforge.org wikibooks.org *.wikibooks.org wikidata.org *.wikidata.org wikimedia.org *.wikimedia.org wikinews.org *.wikinews.org wikipedia.org *.wikipedia.org wikiquote.org *.wikiquote.org wikisource.org *.wikisource.org wikiversity.org *.wikiversity.org wikivoyage.org *.wikivoyage.org wiktionary.org *.wiktionary.org *.wmcloud.org *.wmflabs.org wikimediafoundation.org mediawiki.org *.mediawiki.org wss://tools.wmflabs.org". Note that 'script-src-elem' was not explicitly set, so 'default-src' is used as a fallback.

Tech Support at work says our system is not directly blocking the OSM feature. So, clearly it's a problem that's come about at Wikipedia's end.

I sent a message to Wikimedia techies and there's been some back-and-forth, but all that seems to have happened is damage to these CHL pages (it doesn't matter what county you go to). Currently, all the column headings except City or Town have been destroyed, along with the column in which the landmarks are listed in numerical order. "View Page Source" allows one to see the apparent cause of THIS problem: each appearance of FCC200 should have a # immediately before it, instead of the symbols there now (they won't reproduce).

Obviously I don't have the power to fix this. Also, I'm still hoping to find out what was changed that caused the computer system at my workplace to no longer recognize OSM as safe. Can someone help? Rontrigger (talk) 05:02, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Page problems partially resolved[edit]

At long last, the Open Street Map problem on my work computer has been resolved; however, the problem with these California Historical Landmarks pages remains.

Again, all the column headings except City or Town have been destroyed, along with the column in which the landmarks are listed in numerical order. "View Page Source" allows one to see the apparent cause of the problem: each appearance of FCC200 should have a # immediately before it, instead of the symbols there now (they won't reproduce).

Still in touch with the techies, but they seem to be approaching this one step at a time. Again, can someone here help? Rontrigger (talk) 20:51, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Request Edit A[edit]

Greg Henderson (talk) 20:06, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

 Done * Pppery * it has begun... 15:58, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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