Talk:Cassius Marcellus Clay Sr.

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Keep, 27 June 2020, see discussion.
no consensus, 7 June 2016, see discussion.
merge to Muhammad Ali, 1 September 2009 (UTC), see discussion.

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This Article Should Be Deleted[edit]

This article should be deleted. Throughout the page there is NOTHING to make him notable besides having a famous son and under Wikipedia guidelines notability cannot be inherited. This also applies to Odessa Grady Clay —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.153.128.114 (talk) 23:17, 29 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please see WP:WHY. -- Ssilvers (talk) 14:33, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. If we want to keep these informations we should include them in Ali's page, not here. AndreaFox2 (talk) 13:01, 27 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

6 years to merge?[edit]

This article was supposed to be merged into his son's article 6 years ago. Why hasn't it? This is a non-notable.24.217.11.107 (talk) 19:56, 26 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know if that AfD is in force after all this time, given nobody actually did the merge. His wife's article Odessa Grady Clay, survived its second AfD in 2009 (I actually started the first one). I imagine you could be bold and merge, but who knows who may object to that, and it might seem odd to merge this and not Ali's mother's article. This situation is a bit of a fustercluck. Stevie is the man! ^{Talk • Work} 20:33, 26 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Stale. Nominating it for deletion again would probably be best, if someone still thinks it should be deleted.Anythingyouwant (talk) 02:44, 5 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

@Anythingyouwant: I have started a new AFD for this article. - Yellow Dingo (talk) 10:58, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Assessment comment[edit]

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==WP:Louisville assessment==

Article needs to expand its in line citations and add a picture to help raise this to a Start class article.

-Jahnx (talk) 23:49, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Substituted at 18:00, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Name[edit]

I came to this article wanting to know the origin of his name. That only appears in the Muhammad Ali article: "Cassius Marcellus Clay Jr. ... was named for his father, Cassius Marcellus Clay Sr., who himself was named in honor of the 19th-century Republican politician and staunch abolitionist, Cassius Marcellus Clay". If it is decided not to delete this article it should include that information. Mcljlm (talk) 22:52, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]