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Orphaned references in Central Asians in the United States[edit]

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Central Asians in the United States's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "Great Falls Tribune":

From Afghan diaspora: "Country of origin: Afghanistan". Great Falls Tribune. Retrieved 2021-08-13.
From Afghan refugees: "Country of origin: Afghanistan". Great Falls Tribune. December 21, 2019. Retrieved 2021-08-21.
From Afghan Americans: "Country of origin: Afghanistan". Great Falls Tribune. Retrieved 2021-08-11.

Reference named "In the Matter of K":

From Afghan diaspora: "In the Matter of K, 2 I&N Dec. 253". Board of Immigration Appeals. Casetext.com. May 26, 1945. Retrieved 2021-08-01.
From Afghan Americans: "In the Matter of K, 2 I&N Dec. 253". Board of Immigration Appeals. Casetext.com. May 26, 1945. p. 256. Retrieved 2021-07-23. From an ethnological and scientific point of view, Afghans are unanimously considered to be of the Caucasian race and white persons.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 00:40, 16 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kazakhs and Kyrgyzs are not white[edit]

User:Foxhound03, I take issue with the following statement:

For the purposes of the United States Census, Central Asian Americans are classed under the "white" category rather than Asian American, which is limited to nations from Pakistan eastward.

Due to the fact that this appears to be original research, i.e. "analysis or synthesis of published material that serves to reach or imply a conclusion not stated by the sources". Please provide a reputable source that states that Central Asians are considered white; as per Wikipedia rules this claim cannot be simply deduced. As the anonymous editor from 16 March 2021‎ said, native Kazakhs and Kyrgyzs are not normally thought of as white because they look mostly similar to Mongols or Chinese. And this is just per "social definition" of race (not even touching biological, anthropological or genetic basis). If there is no source to support the claim that Central Asians are white per the U.S. Census Bureau, I propose that the above misleading statement should be removed. Selerian (talk) 13:34, 20 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Selerian and @Foxhound03 - This is very old, but FYI: the U.S census does not mention Central Asians under any racial or ethnic category.[1]

Furthermore, race has zero biological, anthropological or genetic basis. It's a complete social construct. Look at how West Asians and Central Asians are not part of the "Asian" category in the United States census, but their Northern neighbours in Canada do consider West Asians and Central Asians to be "Asian Canadian"? Also, DNA tests are not set in stone and give widely varying results. According to one American author who worked in China, many Han Chinese identify as "white" or "white-skinned". White skin (the Chinese like to consider themselves white)[2]

Furthermore @Selerian - I assume you mean Han Chinese when you're comparing the appearance of native Kazakhs and Kyrgyzs. AKA a "Mongoloid" or "Yellow" racial appearance. Because Russians are one of China's 55 minority groups, and they're Eastern European ethnically, not Far East Asian. Clear Looking Glass (talk) 16:41, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]