Talk:Cesar Rodriguez (pilot)

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Did you know... that Jameel Sayhood was shot down by Cesar Rodriguez mere minutes after achieving one of the few Iraqi aerial victories of the Gulf War?

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Inconsistency[edit]

The article on Jameel Sayhood, the Iraqi pilot that Rodriguez engaged and beat in maneouvre's states that Cesar's wingman did not fire because he had not yet identified the Mig-29 as hostile yet in this article it states that he did not fire because of a computer glitch. Someone should figure out which source is correct and clean them up.--Senor Freebie (talk) 02:23, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I researched into this and the fact is that his wingman did not fire because a computer glitch caused his computer to label the MiG-29 as friendly, so Rodriguezs wingman was not sure whether or not the opposing aircraft was hostile. Skuzbucket (talk) 05:32, 4 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This article states that Sayhood locked on Rodriguez and then disappeared for a short time, after his wingman in a second MiG-29 was shot down by Underhill. After this, Sayhood reappeared and performed a dogfight with Rodriguez. It conflicts with another article.

This other article ("The Last Ace" by Mark Bowden, March 2009 Atlantic Magazine) states that the Iraqi pilot who locked on Rodriguez was hit by AIM-7 launched by Underhill. After this, the second Iraqi pilot performed dogfight with Rodriguez.

So where is the truth?

Except of this, the Wiki article states that the cockpit camera of a MiG-23 recorded the incoming AIM-7. The Article of Mr. Bowden states the same about the MiG-29 that locked up Rodriguez and was shot down by Underhill. Maybe, the Mig-23 was mixed up with the MiG-29. AndyWIS (talk) 18:51, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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