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Where did the episode title come from? The article says the title is "Chapter 15: The Believer" (and most other sources do too) but Rotten Tomatoes seems to think the episode title is "Chapter 15: The Return"[1] (it also has different titles for Chapters 12, 13, and 14). Could someone please clarify that we have the correct episode title? It would also be helpful to know how I could have confirmed or checked this was correct for myself because I did search but I'm not sure how I could have verified the episode title was correct (other than the fact that almost no one besides Rotten Tomatoes is using that title). -- 109.79.72.89 (talk) 16:44, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I see there was a previous discussion and that Rotten Tomatoes has gotten several episode titles wrong. Talk:The_Mandalorian_(season_2)#Episodes_title Would still be nice to know where the correct titles can be verified. -- 109.79.72.89 (talk) 16:46, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The Guardian says this episode (the first half, transporting the explosives at least) was a pastiche of the French classic The Wages of Fear.[2] I don't think I can add that claim to the Production/Writing based on that one source alone but it seems accurate and I expect other sources will confirm it later, hopefully the writer director. -- 109.79.72.89 (talk) 17:05, 11 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I had been hoping that and interview with Famuyiwa might become available and I'd be able to add details from the perspective of the writing and development of the episode, but since so many reviews mentioned either The Wages of Fear or Sorcerer I added it to the Critical response section instead.[4](diff) ComingSoon.net was particularly decisive that it must be a reference to Sorcerer which came out in the 1977 and was massively overwhelmed by another film that came out that year.[5]
Reviewers noticed several other film references in the episodes, beside the aforementioned nod to Office Space and TPS reports, the truck fight scenes were compared to Indiana Jones by a few, and some other reviews compared the tense cafeteria scene to Inglorious Basterds, with some noting that Valin Hess shares his name with Nazi Rudolf Hess.[6] (Inlorious Basterds[7][8]). There's plenty more to deconstruct, some of it might be worth mentioning in the article. I thought it was particularly important to mention The Wages of Fear and Sorcerer but as for the other film references I'll give it some thought and maybe add some mention of them later. -- 109.78.214.194 (talk) 13:11, 15 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
At the end of the episode Mando threatents Moff Gideon. He threatens him using almost the same words Gideon used in Chapter 7. I think this is worth mention in some way. I think if you were describing the plot of this episode to anyone who hadn't seen it that is a detail you would describe.
For brevity and because it referenced chapter 7, I tried to express this as a Footnote but it was removed.[9] I would try to say it directly as part of the Plot section, but the limited word count required by MOS:TVPLOT makes that difficult. I think it is important not just to say that Mando threated Gideon, but to say he did so turning his own words back against him. -- 109.78.193.22 (talk) 03:50, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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