Talk:Chinese Civil War/Archive 2

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Shouldn’t it be a stalemate?

The war never technically ended and tensions are still flaring up. Wouldn’t it be more accurate to call this a frozen conflict? I feel like calling it a PRC victory is propaganda in order to diminish the legitimacy of the Republic of China, which is still recognized by other nations. GigaDerp (talk) 15:51, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

If you look at the size of the territory that each side ended up controlling (see [1]), I'd say one side clearly won. Vpab15 (talk) 17:16, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Regional warlord's role in the war

Does warlords have anything to do with this conflict? Warlords might pledge loyalty and even deploy forces to resist and hold against their lands or allow nationalist force to move through their territory. However, the warlords have little to no mention in this article and briefly described as a band.This war could be a multi-sided conflict with warlords betraying both sides and other warlords.\ yes. Chiang tried to control them, to varying degrees of success. One showed he was ready to destroy the ccp if needed but at that point japan was coming back, so Chiang said "if you surrender, I'll attack you first, then japan, then the ccp."

section on sino-japanese war is rather innaccurate

It says that the CCP did relatively little fighting, and that the ccp-kmt collaboration was in name only. No. Just No. Just because they fought on different fronts does not mean they did not collaborate. And asking the poorly armed Eighth route army to fight directly along with kmt troops would be useless and wasting their value. The ccp did not, as it is implied, just wait for the KMT to win but be severely weakened. Mao literally wrote the book that helped the Chinese win the war. The eighth route army controlled larged swathes of land BEHIND enemy lines. These areas were often attacked by the japanese so they suffered heavy losses. They did engage in warfare, often delivering heavy blows to japan such as in the 百团大战。 In addition most of japan's railways mining oil etc was all heavily hindered. And then there's the part where the "new forth army harrased kmt troops". if so, do you think they'd really retreat when asked? It was all part of Chiang's willingness to get rid of the ccp as soon as the war settled down a bit. And no, this isn't a conspiracy theory, it's literally proven with telegrams and Japan tried to take advantage of this. The new 4th endured attacks from the KMT army, it was not until their commander was captured did they fight back. He was sentenced to five years of jail. And why? To weaken the ccp. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.206.171.145 (talk) 22:49, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

too vaguely presented with other intermingled Chinese civil wars

The article overlooked the importance of internal (if there was a de jure KMT) conflicts between Chiang faction’s KMT vs other factions, especially like the Central Plains campaign 1928-1930 paralleled with (what this article’s claim of purely) CCP-KMT conflict. Chiang did not take CCP as priority target before defeating other factions within KMT. Even during the peak of the so called Long March, Chiang admitted that part of the purpose to send his faction’s KMT over the retreating CCP troop was to gain control of minor warlords’ territories CCP merely passing by. And this also contributed why CCP painted the Long March as military miracle while actually minor warlords’ half measures to passively assist Chiang contributed greatly. This article overlooked these critical factors to analyze. 142.186.93.240 (talk) 00:46, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

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