Talk:Circus clown

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Merge with Clown article?[edit]

No. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.81.122.99 (talkcontribs) 03:41, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Then it must be for all other professional circus clowns and for those who have the knowledge of world-wide circus clowns to contribute to this page and add much more to it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tommy Sandow (talkcontribs) 13:32, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]


I think merging the two articles makes sense, but perhaps I'm missing something? EdwardLane (talk) 08:47, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I am against merging this article with the general clown article. Circus clowns should have a separate article because of their historical and shared character. Adding this article to the general clown article would make that article over long. The main article needs much editing because it gives the impression that the only clowns are circus style clowns. There are other clowns and clown characters including the clowns of the silent film ear such as Charlie Chaplin, Laurel and Hardy etc. My intention is to edit both articles to be more consistent with this view (which I can reference)Robynthehode (talk) 10:15, 8 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Untitled[edit]

This article is all about America, not circus clowns. It's redundant or should be retitled 'American circus clowns'. They are neither an American invention nor do Americans have a monopoly on them. 81.96.205.240 (talk) 04:51, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Drag Artists as a genre of 'Clown'[edit]

Shouldn't Drag Queens and Drag Kings be included as a genre of clown? They wear exaggerated clothing and makeup, are entertainers, promote a message in their performances, and routinely have exaggerated personalities or characteristics when in character and performing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2406:E001:502E:1001:AC8A:2AD5:FAA1:D4B8 (talk) 22:09, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Gags[edit]

I removed this list because it just has the name without any description. RJFJR (talk) 15:57, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Some popular circus gags include:

  • Soap Gags - A production ring gag where whipped shaving soap is substituted for pies, cakes, paint or glue.
  • Dead or Alive - a classic European gag
  • The Baseball Gag - created by Paul Jung from the inspiration of Slivers Oakley.
  • The Boxing Gag - made famous by Otto Griebling and Freddie Freeman
  • The Clown Car - brought to the circus by Otto Griebling. A common example of such a routine involves numerous clowns emerging from a very small car, to humorous effect. The first performance of this routine was in the Cole Brothers Circus during the 1950s.[1]
  • Blowing Up the Fat Man - created by Jack LeClair
  • The Adam Smasher - created by Paul Jung
  • The Midget Car - made famous by Lou Jacobs but also performed by Toto, Bobo Barnett, Kinko Sunburry, Mark Anthony and Billy Vaughn.
  • The Washerwomen - created by Johhny Trippe and Bobby Kellogg in 1944
  • The Reducing Machine -
  • Sweeping Up the Spotlight - signature gag of Emmett Kelly
  • The Firehouse - THE classic production gag of the American circus
  • The Dentist -
  • The Barber Shop - Created on the Barnum & Bailey Circus by Spader Johnson. A version of this gag appears in Chaplin's film THE CIRCUS
  • The Army Gag - created by Paul Jung
  • The Levitation -
  • The Busy Bee - Along with his Painters Gag this is the longtime signature gag of Michael "Coco" Polikov

References

  1. ^ Feiler, Bruce (2003). Under the Big Top. HarperCollins. p. 71. ISBN 0-06-052702-1. {{cite book}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)

Not every comedic character is a clown.[edit]

I've removed uncited lists from this article which stated that all manner of comedians, cartoon characters, and television comedy characters were in fact "non-circus examples" of various sorts of clown. This appeared to be the personal opinion of some contributor. Not every comedy character is a clown. --FOo (talk) 04:28, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Charlie Bell[edit]

He's listed as a whiteface clown but the link is to an article about an Australian businessman who worked in McDonalds - right name, wrong Charlie Bell?Autarch (talk) 21:58, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Charlie Bell was actually one of several names in those lists of clown examples that pointed to the wrong articles. The larger problem here, I found, was the excessive listing of names without Wikipedia articles or references to establish their notability and provide context beyond "this guy was a clown, and this guy was another clown". Overlong, context-free listings of names don't help the reader understand the subject better. So I have condensed the lists, leaving only the names with references or Wikipedia articles of their own. AtticusX (talk) 23:23, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rewrite and edits[edit]

This article is a real mess of incorrect inclusions (Joseph Grimaldi was never a circus clown therefore should only be mentioned and detail included under 'Clown' article. Far too much detail included on various clowns who already have their own page. Poor writing and linking between sections. Poor referencing. My intention is to edit this page and remove material which does not fit in with the subject matter of 'Circus Clown'. Not all clowns are circus clowns. Let me know if you want to help to improve this article or your opinion.Robynthehode (talk) 06:27, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Should this be semi-protected to stem some of the vandalism?[edit]

I've noticed this page has seen a recent spat of vandalism occupying about 40%+ of the edits on the first page of the article's edit history - should it be semi-protected? impinball (talk) 03:37, 1 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]