Talk:Claire von Greyerz

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Review: March 5, 2024. (Reviewed version).

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A fact from Claire von Greyerz appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 5 April 2023 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the children of papercutting artist Claire von Greyerz received some of their education together with Napoleon III?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2023/April. The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Claire von Greyerz.

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Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Cielquiparle (talk) 11:09, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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... that the children of papercutting artist Claire von Greyerz received some of their education together with Napoleon III? Source: Schmidt-Liebich, Jochen (2011-04-20). "Greyerz, Claire von". Lexikon der Künstlerinnen 1700-1900: "In Augsburg gehört sie um 1817/18 zum Bekanntenkreis v. Hortense de Beauharnais, exilierte Ex-Kgn. der Niederlande, mit deren Sohn Louis Napoléon (Kaiser N. III.) zus. ihre Kinder zeitweise unterrichtet werden." TWL link: [1]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Nagina (1951 film)
- Comment: Daughter of my previous FA Georg Forster, sister of GA Therese Forster and step-daughter of GA Ludwig Ferdinand Huber, currently at FAC: Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Ludwig Ferdinand Huber/archive1 :)

Moved to mainspace by Kusma (talk). Self-nominated at 00:02, 18 March 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Claire von Greyerz; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]

An interesting biography. Article is new enough, long enough, very well referenced, and appears to offer a quite comprehensive coverage of its topic. AGF on the mostly offline sources. Hook is interesting, long enough, and referenced. QPQ done. Good to go. Constantine ✍ 10:50, 19 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Additional source?[edit]

Fankhauser 2014 cites an article by Emilie Billon-Haller in "Extra-Beilage der 'Berna' 1913". I don't have any further bibliographical data. "Berna" was a journal for women's interests; the Swiss National Library intends to digitize it [2] but has not done so yet. I was unable to find a Swiss library that has content for 1913. —Kusma (talk) 10:18, 20 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

Passed. Z1720 (talk) 02:27, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Reviewer: Z1720 (talk · contribs) 22:54, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Will review shortly. Z1720 (talk) 22:54, 3 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section): b (inline citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

Considering that this person is notable for her papercutting creations, the article does not spend a lot of time talking about it, either in the lede or in the body. Is there anyway to expand upon this? Any additional commentary or reviews on her artistic style or creations?
Unfortunately there isn't a huge amount. Papercutting is rather niche.
If looking for more sources, some places that I search are WP:LIBRARY, Google Scholar, archive.org, doaj.org, ERIC, and my local library system. You probably know about some or all of these but hopefully additional sources can be found especially commentary about her art.
I know that there are some articles that I haven't seen, but most of it is obscure. The connection to the notable other people in her life has been written about more than her art.
Move the information about the children to before 1832, so that it is chronological with the section. It is weird how the article talks about her death, and then about the children.
Tried to do this, not sure that the list inclusion works.
Source check: Version reviewed

Refs checked: 4, 9, 18. The rest are either inassessable or German.

- Happy to provide copies or translations on request.
Image review: "Clara Forster by Ludovike Simanowiz.png", "Gottlieb von Greyerz by Georg Volmar, ca. 1805.png", needs a US-PD tag.
Added one.

Those are my comments. Please ping when the above are addressed. Z1720 (talk) 01:57, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Z1720, thank you for your review! I made some edits, but unfortunately do not have a lot of extra material. —Kusma (talk) 00:00, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate adding any extra material you can. Hopefully more will be written about this person in reliable sources that can be used to expand the article. For now, I am happy to pass this. Z1720 (talk) 02:26, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.