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Sound films - Section 2.5[edit]

The paragraph "A damaging court trial charging her secretary Daisy DeVoe with financial mismanagement, by Paramount-friendly Los Angeles District Attorney Burn Fitts, Paramount-friendly Los Angeles assistant District Attorney David Clark, and Paramount-friendly Los Angeles Superior Court Judge William C. Doran." isn't even a full sentence much less a paragraph. Very confusing as the paragraphs before and after have nothing to do with this paragraph. What happened? Why is this relevant? I honestly don't know. Needs more detail. SEKluth (talk) 21:16, 6 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Burn Fitts[edit]

That's not his name. 2A02:AA1:1005:E776:8005:90D:46BB:8712 (talk) 23:28, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Corrected to "Buron Fitts", per source. Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:39, 16 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Upgrading citations, let's see if we can better the assessment class[edit]

Hi @Beyond My Ken, Infrogmation, MarnetteD, Parrotistic, and Stovelsten:!

To start off a bit techy, here is some info from ores.wikimedia.org/v3/scores/enwiki/1141847701/articlequality

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I think that means that it would not be a big stretch to better the assessment for this article.

My specialty is working on citations. I have access to a couple of newspaper archives via the Wikipedia Library, so I think I can get fuller citations for many of the newspaper articles. I also think I can improve many of the other citations.

A question that I have is whether we should move the full book & scholarly article citations into the Sources section & link to them via {{sfn}} templates. Right now we have a mixed style, & WP:CITEVAR supports imposing one style on an article with inconsistent citation styles & to seek consensus for a change on the talk page. I would like to go ahead with this, unless there are any objections. Peaceray (talk) 18:32, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the explanation Peaceray. I know it takes time to type all that out and it is appreciated. I think your idea about moving everything to the Sources section is a good one and making the citations consistent is even better :-) Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 19:34, 27 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Still working on improving citations, but I have to slow down for the time being. Peaceray (talk) 05:04, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Removing material from citations that do not appear to exist[edit]

I have encountered several citations that appear to be made up. I suspect some of them may have come from advertisements, & whoever placed them as citations did so without checking whether the original sources really existed. I am going to start noting & removing them when I cannot find them in the source that is given. Peaceray (talk) 17:15, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Don't miss Wine. It's a thoroughly refreshing draught ..."[edit]

The source is given a Kingsley, Grace. Los Angeles Times, August 24, 1924 I have access to this issue at The Los Angeles Times at [1]. I can find mentions of Wine & Clara Bow in this issue, & an article by Grace Kingsley, but the latter does not write about either the movie or the subject. The quote from the article is Don't miss Wine. It's a thoroughly refreshing draught ... there are only about five actresses who give me a real thrill on the screen—and Clara is nearly five of them". It does not appear in the issue. I have search on sub-strings at newspaper.com & on Google, & all that I have found is web pages that apparently were reusing the Wikipedia information without attribution (see WP:CIRCULAR) as they appear after the insertion of the quote by 81.231.109.201 this edit. I will remove the material as unverified by the source. Peaceray (talk) 17:32, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Taylor Swift's song "Fortnight" (2024)[edit]

Doesn't the music video for Taylor Swift's song "Fortnight" (2024) also reference Clara Bow's institutionalization? 98.123.38.211 (talk) 23:02, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]