Talk:Condover Hall

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Paragraphs[edit]

The article did not read well without division into paragraphs, which I have now added. Needs some middle period history to fill in between family use and use as a residential school if anyone can find a suitable source 21stCenturyGreenstuff (talk) 16:33, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Use as Residential School[edit]

The stated date of 1960 for the beginning of the Hall as a residential school needs revising - from family memory the use as school for the blind was well under way in the 1950s and my own mother worked among the care staff before my birth (pre-1959).Cloptonson (talk) 21:02, 16 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have established RNIB bought the Hall in 1946, work to convert it was being done up to and beyond 1950. Cited to Victoria County History of Shropshire.Cloptonson (talk) 15:03, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas Owen[edit]

The statement Elizabeth I granted Condover estate to Judge Thomas Owen is incorrect, suspectedly based on a legend she granted him the manor after successfully getting a parricide lord of the manor hanged having been proved guilty of perjury in getting his servant blamed for the murder. In fact it was purchased from a family he had a civil lawsuit with, facts summarised in Victoria County History of Shropshire account of Condover manor.Cloptonson (talk) 15:06, 18 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Butler Did It[edit]

Whilst that's a fantastic bit of legend, there's absolutely no source given for it. Son of Knyvett? It says Condover was owned by the Owen family. So who were the Knyvett lord & his murderous son, & what connection did they have to Condover? Can anyone provide a reference for this tale? ScarletRibbons (talk) 07:48, 2 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

As one who extensively built up the article on Thomas Owen (died 1598) and carefully researched the background of the legend, the best source that is furthest back from the present time and examines it is Charlotte Burne's Shropshire Folk Lore: A Sheaf of Gleanings, published in 1883 by Turner & Company of London, on pages 114-116. She wrote it had been told her by a resident of Condover parish. It is discussed in the Thomas Owen article.Cloptonson (talk) 21:53, 1 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

To update, I have copied the book citation from the Thomas Owen article into this one.Cloptonson (talk) 06:45, 24 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]