Talk:Connie Talbot's Holiday Magic

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November 10, 2011	Good article nominee	Listed

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The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that some of the proceeds from the 2009 album Connie Talbot's Holiday Magic went to Toys for Tots?

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Very impressive album - Can we get more info on the other artists?[edit]

Maybe it is good artistically as well as emotionally that Connie did the singing in her bedroom studio. It is excellently put together with the music complementing her, not competing with her. I would appreciate knowing some production details. I bought the mp3 version. Are there any significant production details existing on the cd liner we could incorporate into the article?1archie99 (talk) 20:34, 18 June 2010 (UTC)The link to WVIA appears to be useless. I searched the site; they seemed to have disowned any connection to Connie or the alledged part they played.1archie99 (talk) 20:45, 18 June 2010 (UTC) There is what appears to me to be a very raw listing of credits for the album as a whole, not by track at http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:fcftxztaldke~T2. They list two people including Connie as background vocalists. Listening to the album did not appear to reveal any other vocalists. I have had experience in the past with allmusic having sloppy and/or missing details for other albums.1archie99 (talk) 21:04, 18 June 2010 (UTC) Correction: I listened to the album again; there is at least one background vocalist on the track "Do you hear what I here?"1archie99 (talk) 05:35, 6 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sources[edit]

I am just using this as a dumping ground for possible sources for the article. J Milburn (talk) 15:51, 8 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.upi.com/Entertainment_News/2009/09/01/Connie-Talbot-to-release-holiday-CD/UPI-43121251830689/
Special shown on WQED.^[1]

References

^ Bauknecht, Sara (C-1). "That special seasons; Hi-ho, the holiday television-watching season is here". Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. {{cite news}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help); Check date values in: |date= (help)

More information about the DVD please.[edit]

The dvd is excellently produced and contains an additional track of her performing and 3 tracks giving info about the performance and interviews with Talbot. It was made available late last year on the open market. I thought there was more info on the dvd in the article, was it deleted?1archie99 (talk) 19:37, 22 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's a matter of finding the sources. The details I included about the DVD in this article are all from primary sources- do you have anything secondary? Is there anything else you think it would be worth including? Hell, is there anything mentioned in the interviews that could be added to this article? J Milburn (talk) 20:48, 22 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Source found and slight change to article made. I suggest that the additional tracks in the dvd be added in a table below the cd tracks. I own a copy of the dvd, but would adding what she said in the interview using the dvd as a source be acceptable?1archie99 (talk) 01:36, 23 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It certainly would- I did something similar on Dustbin Baby (film), and that's now a featured article. Citing from a DVD is very time-consuming- you have to note down exactly what is said, as well as the approximate time that it occurs in the DVD. See the format I used on the other article. If you're willing to do it, and there's anything you think is worth adding, it'd be a very welcome addition. J Milburn (talk) 10:38, 23 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

For some time the only way to buy the dvd was by dealing with the vendor in Asia which together with the high cost of shipping made the price even higher and I already had the cd. It did not become widely available in the U.S. until well into 2010; that is when I bought my copy for less than $9 including shipping from one of the Amazon partners. The way the paragraph reads now it looks like it is atill only available by sending away for it in Asia. The link to the Talbot site still links only to the vendor in Asia. It is still available from several Amazon partners. Do I need to link to Amazon to be able to tell readers that it is availability in my country?1archie99 (talk) 16:51, 23 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure the article implies that the DVD is only available in Asia- we do have a source specifically mentioning that it was released in Asia, but the article doesn't say that it's available nowhere else. What phrasing do you suggest? J Milburn (talk) 16:59, 23 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a better page for the vendor in Asia, it is for the dvd alone. I don't understand the preferred way you do cites so I thought it best to just give you the url I suggest putting back my sentence that it is now widely available. Here is the Amazon page offering to sell the dvd. We could say It is also available from other retailers including Amazon. I must take a few hours off now. I will watch the interview in the future to see if there is anything worth adding to the article. Do you have access to the dvd to verify the correctness of anything I come up with? Also, it is possible the interview may be on youtube.1archie99 (talk) 17:41, 23 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Connie Talbot's Holiday Magic/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Moisejp (talk · contribs) 06:34, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I'll be reviewing this article for GA in the next few days. Moisejp (talk) 06:34, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
Well written.
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
The references are all reliable sources. I looked at all of the online ones and the info stated in the article checked out.
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It is satisfactorily broad in its coverage.
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
Both good and bad reviews included.
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
No edit wars. Stable.
It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
The one image used has a proper fair use rationale.
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

Rather than bringing up any minor issues here, I made a number of small copy edits to clean them up. There were three dead links, but I replaced one, and the other two didn't seem necessary (see my edit summaries). I am very happy to pass this article. Good job. Moisejp (talk) 16:28, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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