Talk:Conservative Democratic Party of Switzerland

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Title[edit]

The French title seems to be "Parti bourgeois démocrate". I would therefore go with "Conservative Democratic Party" for English as mentioned by Checco. 'Civic' doesn't quite seem to me to capture the same meaning. It should also be remembered that while this is a liberal offshoot of the SVP, it remains a 'conservative' party. Any title suggestions containing 'liberal' should also be avoided as this may complicate matters when it comes to finding an appropriate English name for the upcoming merger of the FDP and Liberal Party. --Bluehouse21 ch (talk) 10:49, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As its name (in German) seems to be debated, I doubt there is an established translation to English. I'd rather place it at its current German name. -- User:Docu

This English language news report also uses the translation "Civic Party", so it does seem to be the name used in English for this party. There seems to be a legal dispute about the German name, but it's not clear to me why that means why we should use the disputed German name instead of its English equivalent. Sandstein 05:41, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Swissinfo page you linked (currently) uses "Conservative Party of Switzerland". -- User:Docu

Interesting. It read "Civic Party" this morning. We can move the article to that name, or its German name, or wait until some more English sources turn up. It doesn't really matter to me. It might also be instructive to wait until they get an official French name (in Berne, they're bound to) and see how they translate "bürgerlich" there. Sandstein 18:12, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

yes, this is a problem that will solve itself over the next few weeks. For the time being, the German name is good enough. The BPS, fwiiw, is not a "Swiss party" at this point. It is at best a party in statu nascendi ({{future event}}). Again, this will sort itself out in the near future. --dab (𒁳) 19:17, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As the main part of the new party is the Grisonian BPS, I'd have preferred to leave it at BPS for now (as that's the currently intended name), but we'll just have to wait and see what happens in regard to the name. —Nightstallion 10:33, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I concur, but we'll probably have to wait, at any rate, to know for sure what this new party's new name will be. Sandstein 13:54, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I actually prefer to have a title in English as for every other Swiss party. Either "Civic Democratic Party" or "Conservative Democratic Party" are OK for me. --Checco (talk) 15:38, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

well, these other parties chose their English names themselves, they're not translations by Wikipedians. We'll have to wait for their homepage to go live in order to know what they want to call themselves in English. dab (𒁳) 15:47, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

um, I may be wrong about that. Still, let's wait until they made up their minds and choose a definite name. --dab (𒁳) 15:57, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It seems the final name will be BDP: [1] —Nightstallion 16:32, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can we translate the article's title now? --Checco (talk) 07:43, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fine by me. —Nightstallion 12:35, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Great! Also Nordsieck uses the same translation... fine. --Checco (talk) 12:08, 10 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It seems to me that BDP was named after the ruling conservative ODS (Civic Democratic Party) of Czech Republic. Karadameguricha (talk) 13:38, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Official translation of the party's name[edit]

The official translation of Bürgerlich-Demokratische Partei now seems to be Conservative Democratic Party. This name is given at http://www.admin.ch/ch/e/cf/br/110.html and http://www.admin.ch/ch/e/cf//br/115.html , the English profiles of the party's Federal Councillors Schmid and Widmer-Schlumpf. Ngagnebin moved the article accordingly from Civic Democratic Party of Switzerland a few days ago. As this user's link to admin.ch in the version history got truncated and isn't working, I'm therefore noting this here. The German adjective "bürgerlich" can be translated as "civic", "conservative", "middle-class" or "bourgeois", depending on context (the origin is "Bürger" - a citizen, bourgeois, or burgher). Gestumblindi (talk) 19:53, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The last entry is totally right. Bürgerlich means "civic". Consevative is still quite appropriate, but i can assure that any memeber of the BDP would oppose to being called conservative, because in german, this term is absolutely neutral, it simply means that you stick to tradited opinions. This is not the case with the BDP. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.74.183.201 (talk) 20:04, 14 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:The New Right (Denmark)#Name Braganza (talk) 05:42, 6 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ideology[edit]

There is little information on the ideology of this party. It should be expanded on.1990'sguy (talk) 02:52, 20 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The current sources on the page state that the party is conservative, but upon looking on the party's website, it seems to label itself as liberal, at least with regards to civil policies. The party also seems to be specifically fiscally conservative as opposed to just general blanket conservatism, as well as slightly environmentalist, seeking a gradual phase-out of nuclear power. If anyone doesn't oppose this (since the current source is nearly a decade old at this point), I motion to refine/update the infobox description accordingly. HapHaxion _{(talk / contribs)} 19:42, 17 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

^I've seen no one oppose so I'll change it for now. If anyone has any concerns later, feel free to bring this back up.

I think the term “civil libertarianism” is not really an appropriate description for the BDPs position. They supported gay rights, but they defended law-and-order/though-on-crime-positions as well as moderate anti-immigration policies (in the latter cases, to the same extent as the other center-right parties FDP and CVP). And why it’s true that the BDP was in favour of a nuclear phase-out, this was not a particular signature policy of the BDP. I other areas of environmental they hold moderate centre-right positions – f.e. due to its rurale base, they supported agricultural and hunting interests and had a centrist climate policy. Therefor I replaced “civil libertarianism” and “anti-nuclear” by “centrism”, which I think describes the BDPs overall social and environmental policies best (there is a reason that they now form part of a party called “the centre”).--So-Gast (talk) 10:39, 1 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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