Talk:Crime in Australia

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Highwayman[edit]

The highwayman is typically British whereas the American terms for similar activity were more specific, bank robbers, train robbers, outlaws. "Ugly-American" is a more modern term so I removed it. Julia Rossi 22:50, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Victims of crime Article being deleted right now[edit]

The following in Victims of crime is being considered for deletion right now: 


There are is debate on the definition of a [[Victim]] of [[Crime]], however, the following, [[United Nations]], definition is widely accepted:
<blockquote>...persons who, individually or collectively, have suffered harm, including physical or mental injury, emotional suffering, economic loss or substantial impairment of their fundamental rights, through acts of omissions that are in violation of criminal laws operative within Member States, including those proscribing criminal abuse of power.
</blockquote>

== Victims of Crime in Australia ==

30% of the [[Australia]] population report being a victim of crime in a given year.

These crimes include:
<ul>
<li>[[robbery]]</li>
<li>[[burglary]] or [[attempted burglary]]</li>
<li>[[car theft]]</li>
<li>[[car vandalism]]</li>
<li>[[bicycle theft]]</li>
<li>[[sexual assault]]</li>
<li>theft from car</li>
<li>theft of personal property</li>
<li>assault and threats</li>
</ul>

=== Victims Of Crime Counseling & Compensation ===
Services exist in Australia to help Victims of Crime to seek Counseling and Compensation to aid their recovery.

==== Melbourne ====
[http://www.victimsofcrime.com.au/ Victims of Crime Counseling & Compensation Services]

Travb (talk) 20:19, 11 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Unreferenced claims about living people[edit]

The article is currently lacking any citations at all, and some of the individuals named are redlinks (about seven right now), so the citations can't be in those articles. Andjam (talk) 11:44, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Purpose and current status of this article[edit]

Uhhh... what is the purpose of this article? I found it looking for an overview of how crime is managed and dealt with in Australia (more specifically, looking for the common sentence for murder) but instead i found a horrible wiki page that just has a serious identity crisis.

I would be more than willing to fix it up, but the page is horribly daunting and i dont know where to start. What would be removed and what should be kept? 124.149.113.63 (talk) 09:06, 12 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

FYI one current sub headline is "Fisk smager godt" - it means Fish taste good in Danish... Prob some kind of minor sab, but I couldnt find the original text. JanneW (talk) 08:33, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

First Sentence is Factually Incorrect[edit]

I was doing some research and was astounded to find that the lede sentence of this Wikipedia article is factually incorrect - "Australia has a much lower violent crime rate than some other developed nations, such as the United States and the United Kingdom." The source cited is regarding "homicides" but this article is about crime in general. I am going to correct once I find the correct source. Regardless, we probably should not start the lede on this with a comparative to the US or UK. Feel free to comment.-Justanonymous (talk) 19:36, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

There, I changed it a bit so at least the article doesn't start off with a blantant lie.-Justanonymous (talk) 20:28, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Bizarre Header Names[edit]

What's with the strange header names on this page? Or is this some sort of odd language I'm not acquainted with?? Steroid Maximus (talk) 13:07, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Also, perhaps a mention of the Eureka Rebellion is surely worth putting in here somewhere? Steroid Maximus (talk) 13:11, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Purpose and current status of this article (revived) - proposed merges[edit]

As per the earlier discussion above, this page is still rather a mess. The template Template:Crime in Australia is cited, but I am wondering about the usefulness of breaking down the country by state/territory as well as city, given the small population and the fact that law enforcement and crime stats are by state, not city - and the cities have ever-growing borders as fringe towns become outer suburbs, etc. (Crime in Canada seems to be a better model to follow, although there the links to states and territories seem to be made only by categories and that leads to rather a confusing mess too...) Just leaving aside all of the other issues for the moment, what about moving (merging) all of the "Crime by [city]" articles into a single article per state or territory, with a section for any major cities or towns with specific crime issues, where necessary? The potential for stats falling out of date, contradictions across articles, etc. just increases with the number of smaller subdivisions. (I don't have a good handle on categories yet, so I don't know if they need re-appraisal too?) Laterthanyouthink (talk) 10:15, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

As per my previous comment, I am proposing that the articles currently named by city each be merged into a state-level article. In each case, the crime statistics and police services relate to the whole state, and with population density outside the major cities being so low, I can't see a case for separate articles for each. I have created articles for Crime in New South Wales and Crime in the Australian Capital Territory as stubs to start the process, and would like to do the same for all of the other states and territories. Please discuss here and/or on the NSW talk page. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 04:16, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I support these changes 100%. The Crime in Melbourne page is a dogs breakfast, as is Crime in Australia.
Thanks, Bacondrum. I'll chip away at it slowly, before and after the merges are decided by discussion or default. Feel free to assist! Laterthanyouthink (talk) 07:54, 30 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
So far, NSW, Victoria, Queensland and Northern Territory have been done. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 03:25, 16 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Stats section[edit]

Is there any point in transcribing a whole lot of detailed stats onto this page, only to become out of date within a year if not months? I don't have time to address it now, but I'd like to propose sweeping away all of that 2013-14 clutter (which mostly only shows comparisons between the two years) and write it up as some kind of a summary with links to the Crime Statistics Agency and maybe the ABS. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 07:54, 30 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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