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Cromerian stage[edit]

What happened here? As I understand it the Cromerian Stage is one of the major stages of the Pleistocene in the UK. The Cromer Forest Bed is just one regional set of deposits of this age. Pterre (talk) 21:27, 26 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article was in a bit of a state. It talked about the "Yarmouthian" stage for which I could find no reference, half of it talked about American deposits, and stated in the article that the name in Europe was the "Cromerian Complex".

It seemed to me that any reference to the British Cromerian were covered by the Cromerian Forest Bed. Any references to the deposits in the rest of Europe should have been in an article called the "Cromerian Complex" which, by necessity, would not contain anything about the Cromerian Bed.

This left two choices

Rename the article from Cromerian Stage to Cromerian Complex - this would have needed removal of all the material about the British stage as it would not be part of the Cromerian complex. After removing the material about the British stage it would have left just the stuff about America and "Yarmouthian" which was not needed and was not correct so would have been deleted - result would have been a blank page.
Remove it and start again, merging any useful data on Britain's Cromerian stage into this article "Cromerian Forest Bed" which can only refer solely to the British part of the Cromerian Complex - this would leave a redirect to here from "Cromerian Stage" and leave it up to others to create the "Cromerian Complex" article page and fill it up with the info on the rest of Northern Europe

I checked some books and reference material.

According to the Enc. Britanicca [1] "In England the Cromerian is represented by the Cromer Forest Bed Series, which consists of peats, sands, and silts that contain a good record of the plant life of the time. Pollen studies indicate that a pine-birch forest..."

I also checked here [2] , [3] , [4] which all refer to the European areas and call it the Cromer Complex.

I did a search through books and got [5] and [6] which all refer to the British Cromerian Forest bed and the Cromerian Complex over Europe.

I concluded that the option I should take was option 2.

As you can see I did look into it. This separates the two into their correct locations - "Cromerian Complex" for coverage of the whole of (the rest of) Europe and "Cromerian Forest bed" for Britain. Any search for "Cromerian Stage" would be looking for the UK version and that is apparently referred to almost exclusively as the "Cromerian Forest Bed"

Chaosdruid (talk) 00:58, 27 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

We have at least stub articles for many of the other UK stages (for example Hoxnian Stage, Anglian (stage), Ipswichian interglacial (which currently redirects to Eemian for some reason), Pastonian Stage, Wolstonian Stage, and Devensian which currently redirects to Last glacial period. I thought at one stage this had all been sorted out - I will have a look at it when I get a moment. Pterre (talk) 09:25, 27 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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