Talk:Curly (scout)

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Shouldn't the main link for Curley go to the disambig page? I never heard of this guy - if anything the direct link should be to Curley of the Three Stooges, IMO. Spalding 01:21, August 8, 2005 (UTC)

I am surprised by this entry. Curley consistently denied being involved in the combat phase of the battle or "escaping." Moreover, his fellow Crow Scouts denied the story. Documentary evidence from the time of the battle and for sixty years later refuted the survival claim.

The most extensive published collection of complete interviews on the topic, and not simply extracted fragments presented as evidence, exists in Col. W.A Graham's The Custer Myth (Harrisburg, PA: Bonanza Books, 1953) in Chapter 3, "The Crows," pp. 7-25.

J.K. Moran

This is an absolutely attrocious interpretation of the name Curley and does this website absolutely no favours and aught be removed immediatetly! Curley is a 3,000 year old Irish name with the Gealic spelling Mac Thoirdealbhaigh. Originally from the counties of Roscommon and Galway, the name translates into English as "the son of the dark haired hero"...this is just another example of stupid Americanisms trying to claim history for their own....grow up!!!

David Curley Ireland —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.42.160.101 (talk) 03:30, 27 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article seems a little generous to Curley. All accounts of the other scouts and Reno survivors are at odds with him on significant points, and it seems extremely likely that he exaggerated his story-- although his actual experience that day is fascinating enough, and its pretty understandable given the nature of the event for a young man to have stretched things a bit when made the center of attention. Two main points: 1) Curley almost certainly left Custer well before the 'Last Stand' combat and did not see him surrounded or die; and 2) Rather than lasting from two to several hours, as Curley implies, the final sequence that led to Custer's five companies being surrounded and anihilated was much quicker. From the river to the Last Stand, maybe only 30-45 minutes. After deploying on the hillside, there may have been as little as 20 minutes of exchange fire before a single wave swept up over the hilltop and killed everyone left, except for a few men who broke an fled down the opposite side, and were taken down before they reached any place of safety. It was FAST, and Custer probably couldn't believe how quickly things had turned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 214.13.130.104 (talk) 12:23, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think Ashishishe meaning "the Crow" is probably a misunderstanding, "Shísshia" is a Crow word meaning "curly" and Ashishishe is probably another transliteration of that. The Crow word for crow is áalihte which sounds nothing like either rendition, so he may have had a name other than Ashishishe that meant the crow.

I'm mostly going off my own knowledge of the crow language here and I wasn't sure how to properly cite a website which is why I'm not editing it myself, but dictionary.crowlanguage.org has the translations of both words. Good.lvck (talk) 17:58, 4 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]