Talk:Dakota Fanning/Archive 1

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Archive 1

Archive 2

Cat n the hat fish img

Hehe, well I asked for an image and got one. I know that pics from movies and/or "movie posters" for the actors usually are accepted, however this one I wonder about. It doens't specifically show the actor.. Any comments? I would RV, but prefer to see if anyone thinks it should stay or go.

<>Who 03:04, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Quote

There's a quote that's been attributed to Dakota that keeps getting added and removed [1]. Just yesterday I stumbled across its source: http://www.moviejuice.com/2005/war.htm So it's an obvious jokes and any future entries should be removed. --Bacteria 06:46, 8 September 2005 (UTC)

Agreed. This only can be allowed in Uncyclopedia, not in this Wikipedia. --onWheeZierPLot 15:52, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Scandinavian descent?

A lot of quickie web profiles say she's "of Scandinavian descent". They stem, no doubt, from the IMDB entry. Does anyone have a good source for that? IMDB is often wrong. Vulturell 22:47, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

It says on her sister Ellen's imdb page that she is of Scandanavian descent. Its just which Scandanavian country does her ancestry originate from? Oh and on her front Wikipedia page, it says that she's of German descent and her last name is of Irish descent but she's not in the Irish-American category like her sister Ellen. Can someone please put her in Wikipedia's Irish-American category? User:Qtaha, 27 January 2008

Unprofessional message?

Just after Filmography, there's the message.

This external link has been added repeatedly by three users in Hawaii (where the website is registered) and by a fourth in Bardstown, KY (go figure...). This fansite is not "official" in any way, and it appears the site's owners may be attempting to advertise the site's commercial tie(s). 66.91.29.200 (talk), 67.53.47.217 (talk), 66.8.140.106 (talk) and 208.45.201.18 (talk) have been warned, with no response. Editors, please feel free to keep an eye peeled. RadioKirk 21:23, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Dustin Putman quote

Dustin Putman is some random gay guy from Virginia who runs his own movie review website called "The Movie Boy". His reviews are not published anywhere of great note or respect, and his site is entirely self-created. I don't think that quoting him in this article (with a citation no less) is particularly constructive, any more than the opinion of the man on the street. Pacian 08:23, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

Why not? Many film reviewers are independent. Your objection borders on the offensive... Radio Kirk talk to me 14:29, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

"[S]ome random gay guy from Virginia who runs his own movie review website" could be considered offensive, both to gays and to people who run their own websites. For the record, I didn't include the quote, but I didn't find it worthy of deletion, either... Radio Kirk talk to me 18:19, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

If you read my brief bio here on wikipedia you'd see that I myself am gay. I didn't cite his sexual preference as some sort of reason why his opinion is not noteworthy; if anything your asumption that this is what I meant is the only thing potentially offensive. To me it is just a natural to describe him as "some gay guy" as it is to describe him as "some guy." The POINT is that ANYBODY can start their own website and write their opinions on things - and that's what a movie review is, an opinion - but only people who are NOTEWORTHY in their profession or field deserve to be cited or quoted in wikipedia. "TheMovieBoy" is not, and he does not. Pacian 06:35, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Regardless, "some random gay guy" reads as potentially offensive; I don't like it when blacks call themselves and each other "niggaz" either—it perpetuates a stereotype, IMHO. However, I now regret even mentioning it, as the issue distracts from the point at hand: It's not whether Putman's quote is from someone who is relevant, but that rather the quote is relevant to the article and its subject—again, IMHO. I feel Putman succinctly worded what many reviewers have said (or hinted at) and, therefore, I (for one, anyway) felt the quote should stay. Radio Kirk talk to me 13:44, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

I don't understand how someone with so much experience on Wikipedia, especially someone who thought himself good enough to be nominated for adminship, could possibly feel this way? There are rules and standards here, and you're totally ignoring them! It doesn't MATTER if he "succintly worded what many reviewers have said", because he is a big fat NOBODY!. I hate to be so crass about it, but the fact of the matter is, people who are not noteworthy are simply not acceptable as contributors of opinion in Wikipedia! Wikipedia is expected to maintain a NPOV, and if someone's opinion on a subject is going to be entered into an article, it is expected that they be a NOTEWORTHY EXPERT ON THE SUBJECT; otherwise it is simply not acceptable. For example, I think that Madonna's performance in Swept Away was crap. Just because *my* opinion is on par with what most professional critics think, should there be a mention in the Swept Away article that says "User: Pacian thinks the movie was crap." Of COURSE NOT. I'm flabbergasted that this is even an issue of debate; it's so crystal-clear to me!!! Pacian 14:19, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

So, this becomes an attack on me? Since you're aware of my RfA, you will also know that my response thereto was, "I've given this a lot of thought and, while my participation has been brief and would remain fairly narrow in the grand scheme of things, I believe I can contribute as an admin. Therefore, I humbly and gratefully accept [the] nomination." During its rejection, I noted, "[i]f indeed it turns out the consensus is that I need more experience, then I do not disagree, nor do I take it personally". That aside, I find it particularly interesting that you liken my belief that a reviewer's quote is relevant to adding my personal opinion ("should there be a mention in the Swept Away article that says "User: Pacian thinks the movie was crap." Of COURSE NOT."). For the record, I have seen exactly one Dakota Fanning film. As I assist in the maintenance of this and several other articles on Wikipedia, my only motive is clear: The creation of a good, succinct and relevant read. What's your motive? Hatred of Dustin Putman? Hatred of me? Summary dismissal of opinions that differ from yours?

Let's settle this: One of us (and, I don't care who) is now charged with finding a similar quote from someone you deem "relevant", and supplanting the existing quote. You want Putman to be irrelevant? So be it... Radio Kirk talk to me 14:53, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Done. Radio Kirk talk to me 20:24, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Um...dude, seriously? Chill out. How was that an attack on you? It seems like you're glossing over my points entirely and conceeding as if to make some kind of straw-man point! Why would I hate two people who I don't even know? I don't have time for hate. You have yet to concede to my being right, but the simple fact is that I *AM* right. This is Wikipedia standard, and standards are expected to be upheld. My entire point was that Dustin Putman is a self-proclaimed reviewer, one without any accreditation or celebrated status as such; ergo his opinion is not acceptable for inclusion in a Wikipedia article. ANYONE can start up a website and write movie reviews; that does not make them on par with recognized, celebrated legitimate critics such as Roger Ebert or Leonard Maltin, or any number of people who are actually PUBLISHED (not self-published.) In point of fact when I brought up your own status on Wikipedia it was genuine confusion: I legitimatelly don't understand how someone who feels he is familiar enough with Wikipedia could POSSIBLY argue in favour of keeping this quote!!! I'm seriously flummoxed, because it just seems so clear-cut to me! Anyhow, thank you for locating an alternate quote. Pacian 23:17, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

You can be right as rain and go about it in the most incorrect way possible. You only invoked the concept of encyclopedic relevance after I took you to task for, to outward appearances, hating on Putman (who I'd never heard of before, by the way, he'd be loving the pub...) because you find him irrelevant. Meantime, you also continue to fail to embrace the concept that what you find "crystal-clear" is not universal by any stretch of the imagination. Tell you what: You admit I was correct to question your motives—given the initial presentation of your case—and I'll admit you were right about his encyclopedic irrelevance. Radio Kirk talk to me 23:25, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

A Movie review in itself should not be any basis of fact, it is an opinion. I don't think it matters whether Ebert or this guy has a quote, it is still an opinion. But at the same time if a quote manages to articulate an idea that is a fact rather elegantly then why not include it? Part of the reason I don't usually bother with this site is because the amount of smug that can be generated is destructive enough to raise San Fransisco. Seriously, a movie critic is judged on how well he can voice his opinion, IMHO. Also Dustin Putman is listed in Rotten Tomatoes, so apparantly people do read him: http://www.rottentomatoes.com/author-1388/. Wikipedia does frequently use Rotten Tomatoes freshness rating, which I can define as respect. - Jason Kenney —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.218.19.116 (talk) 20:35, 17 February 2007 (UTC).

I can see where people would find "some random gay guy from Viginia" offensive. I'm not trying to take sides here, but what is the relevance, with respect to his opinion of Dakota Fanning's work, of the fact that he's from Virginia? 141.158.238.213 02:50, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Charlotte's Web release date

Since MattD12027 (talk) forgot to include a source, here's one Radio Kirk talk to me 18:28, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Campaign to save wild horses?

User 67.8.114.218 (talk) removed the item "Dakota campaigns to save endangered wild horses from extinction." Finally, it occurred to me to check this out; I can find no reference to this "campaign" in several autobiographies, so I'm leaving it out. If someone else can find (and cite) a reputable source for this tidbit, by all means, reinsert. Radio Kirk talk to me 21:06, 8 January 2006 (UTC)

Wild horses aren't endangered! KinseyLOL 14:12, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

They may not be endangered as a species, but individual wild horses - and domestic horses also - are in danger of being slaughtered all too often. Erudil 18:22, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Actually, truly wild horses are endangered. They are known as Przewalski's horse and they are native to Mongolia. 69.12.240.184 00:11, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

The campaign to save wild horses is focusing on mustangs in the southwest not horses for slaughter or in Mongolia, and yes in a way they are endangered seeing as how there are only a few hundred that are not in captivity. Its like yeah there are a lot pandas but most of them are in zoos. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Benadamspears (talk • contribs) 17:05, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Im sorry she is not 11 years old!!

She does not look 11! oh my god! Are you sure she is not like 7 years old!? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.35.170.205 (talk • contribs) . — Preceding undated comment added 01:55, 13 January 2006‎ (UTC)

In response to the unsigned message above by 71.35.170.205 (talk)... okay, if you say so. She'll be 12 in a month or so ;) Radio Kirk talk to me 03:01, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Dakota is 12 now. She used to look really young for her age, but in 2006 pics, she looks closer to her age. Her sister Elle is 7 years old! I think people look at IMDb pics, and watch I am Sam and forget that those were filmed several years ago. Even the movies that were released last year (2005) were filmed before then.

And it's not like 11 year olds grow at all or anything... Cburnett 05:24, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Of course, looking younger then they are is definitely a plus for a child actor. And its mainly the way she dresses and how she plays with dolls and all that makes people think she's younger, but she was home schooled, can't blame her.

when does she stop being a child actor? 13? 16? 18? --209.244.188.245 21:50, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Dakota will be 13 on Friday. I think "child actor" all depends on your perspective. Our childstar fans site is for people up to age 20, and the teen star site is about people ages 13-19, so it all depends on the person who's running it. And as for the comment about looking younger, so does my little sister! She just turned 11 and she is pretty small for her age, too. Some girls are done growing by 12/13, others can grow until they're 18/19. Everyone is different. Stephe1987 03:40, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Upcoming films

I removed all except Coraline, the only film I could confirm in a good source. IMDB is really good for nothing anymore, and certainly not reliable for this kind of thing. I also removed the Tony Scott quote - I couldn't find it anywhere online except Wiki. JackO'Lantern 03:24, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Fascinating... I'm pretty sure I'm the one who added the quote from Scott; if not, then I must've had a hand in restructuring the sentence. Now, it's only on Wikimirrors... Radio Kirk talk to me 03:39, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm. I don't think I should trust you anymore. You seem like a bad man. Bad. Man. :| JK. ;) --Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 03:41, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

LOL!!! Radio Kirk talk to me 03:49, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm, btw, I checked out that source for one of the "rumoured" films (forget the title, but it was an article on Elle). It was pretty outdated - circa 2004 - so I took it out of the article. No use in repeating two year-old rumours, right? JackO'Lantern 03:46, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Say RadioKirk, how far do you think we are from a featured article here? I think at least half-way, maybe more? Almost there? JackO'Lantern 03:55, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

If I had to judge by the process to get Lindsay Lohan and Karen Dotrice there, I'd say this article is maybe 1/3 of the way there... ways to go yet :) Radio Kirk talk to me 04:17, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

I know this is not a movie, but she did play the role of Mackenzie in one episode of F.R.I.E.N.D.S during Season 10 ('The One With Princess Consuela'). That was a really nice scene with Joey (Matt LeBlanc). But it has not been mentioned anywhere at all. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 221.128.134.182 (talk) 10:08, 8 May 2007 (UTC).

Leno appearance

This stuff:

She appeared on The Tonight Show With Jay Leno on November 10, 2003, where she declared that she and her sister share a room, and described The Cat in the Hat co-star Mike Myers as "very funny".

And this:

In a Tonight Show interview on July 12, 2005, Fanning revealed that she received a cell phone from War of the Worlds co-star Tom Cruise for her birthday, much to her parents' chagrin. She made a third appearance on The Tonight Show on October 19, 2005, in which she demonstrated her technique for selling Girl Scout cookies.

Are these mediocre observations the only reason to mention the Leno appearances?

If so, all of it should go. Reads as child-star fetishism, no encyclopedic relevance at all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bustter (talk • contribs)

Well, certainly fancruft, and I tend to agree with you. Of course, as I've already noted, this article needs work. Radio Kirk talk to me 16:26, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

In her most recent Leno appearance, Dakota spoke at length about her dental history. She has never had a cavity. None of her baby teeth fell off naturally, but all had be removed. She is going through very complicated dental surgery. None of this is of importance except to dentists, people who have suffered from dental problems, future biographers and readers of those biographies, her fans - and when you add up all these people, it's a lot of people. Erudil 18:27, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Why not just mention that she appeared on Leno (and what dates) and place links to sources that would provide a synopsis for it? Not everyone appears on Jay Leno, so its a fact worth mentioning.

Death hoax

Just to let editors know: There was a mostly isolated, Internet rumor about Fanning's death; it turned out to be an altered CNN screen grab made by someone with too much time and not enough productive things to do. Since Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a fan site (among other things), it is my very strong opinion that any mention of this little incident on the main article should be nuked on sight. Bringing up such crap even if only to shoot it down lends it unintentional credence and likely inspires other cretins toward similar misdeeds. Radio Kirk talk to me 14:25, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

When was this rumor start????Daman1234 14:39, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Reasons for POV tag

Whoever wrote this article must be a big fan of her. (and by big, I mean really crepily obsessed) KinseyLOL 23:35, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

I agree, it seems really one sided. It should be inpartial. I tried to suggest an impartial edit before, but some obsessive fan like sent me a rude message. Some fans can't see she's not God. If she's not right for a role, but the fans think she is, no matter if the character is 16, with like black hair and very curvy, they are like make-up can take care of everything, as if she can play ANY role. It happens that an actor can't play every role. And it annoys me when fans are so diehard. I mean, I think she's good, but there are so many people obsessed over this little girl.

Annette fleming21:35, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

What's next? Shrines? How she smells? What she thinks about during school periods? y'know, soon they'll have the technology to turn Dakota into a boy, more than one of her, make her look younger/older, turn her into an Asian, and then all hope will be lost. KinseyLOL 20:34, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

That comment that you put was rude and insulting and they can already clone cows they can probably clone us humans.Daman1234 14:35, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Can we please consider the possibility that the articles' subjects may read these comments? Were Ms. Fanning a Wikipedian, you'd have just violated WP:NPA. RadioKirk talk to me 20:41, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

No offence meant, but if Dakota wasted her time caring about people's opinions, she couldn't be an actress. An actress knows to ignore comments, and we should be allowed to talk about her, because she is not a normal wikipedian and is not likely to be wasting her time on here at all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.163.118.146 (talk • contribs)

Just because someone "knows to ignore comments", it's not an invitation to break the bounds of civility. "I can say what I want because she can take it"? Please... and we wonder why everyone on this planet hates each other... RadioKirk talk to me 21:43, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

I don't see this article as particularly slanted. The material in it, a mixture of stated facts and critical praise quoted from sources that, at first glance, appear to be reliable, is exactly the kind of text we want to see at Wikipedia, which is presumably why it was considered a good-article candidate. I see two main problems:

The points raised above in "GA comments" haven't been addressed. In particular, the intro paragraph cannot stand without a reliable source, and the "fluffy" bits (which seem largely unsourced) may go better in a "Trivia" section (to avoid detracting from the rest of the article) or be deleted as fancruft, however true they may be.
Balance can be achieved by quoting criticisms, including citations for their sources. If no critics have gone on record with concerns about her work (or anything else, in this celebrity-obsessed age), the balance issue is irrelevant. (I'm sure this is either not the case, or inevitably won't be for long, regardless of Fanning's activities. Nobody exists in the spotlight long without receiving professional criticism.)

The comments above that are critical of Fanning sound more like sour grapes than professional analysis of her acting merit. There will always be mega-fans and mega-haters of any celebrity, willing to claim bias against or toward the subject, respectively. The issue is what we write based on published data from informed professionals. And whether Fanning reads this article or not is completely irrelevant. Wikipedia exists to discuss notable subjects in an encyclopedic manner; the subjects themselves, by being notable, are left to their own devices to accomodate their notability and its consequences. Let's just stick to our goal of reporting documented information. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 03:28, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Abundantly correct. Just for clarification, my comment above was in response to the editor's assertion, "P.S. I know she was made in a (laboratory)." Talk page or no, such a comment violates WP:CIVIL at the very least. RadioKirk talk to me 04:12, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

I figured that part was a joke. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 00:26, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

I am not judging her based on anything besides her skills at acting. The reason this article is no longer one sided is because someone edited it. They must have because before, there were stupid remarks obviously made by a major fan. Something like how great she is as a person soley(as if they knew her) and not written as it shoud be in a wikipedian article. That's what I was addressing, but it looks like it has been taken care of. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.163.102.11 (talk • contribs) 14:25, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Assuming this means the POV objection has been taken care of, I've removed the POV tag. This doesn't remove the need to address the issues described above, of course. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 00:29, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

On which planet was War of the Worlds considered a critical success?

GA comments

Reasoning behind a No vote: (1)The intro contains original research elements that contribute to poor readability. (2)The main body may need some streamlining.

(Note: I am not too familiar with who Dakato Fanning is, and only know her from the WOTW film, so I won't be able to give specific advice).

1) "She is considered by "film critics" to be among "the best child actors" of her generation." Where is this described in the article? I know she has won plenty of awards, and that she has been in many movies, that that she makes a lot of money, and that she has been on a lot of talk shows... but the the claim made in the intro can only be substantiated with very specific information. If you are seeking to promote Dakota's power as an actress, I highly recommend replacing that part with something equally glowing, but more substantive.

There are just examples (I have no idea if these are actually true or not).

-"Most prolific young actress of her generation" <-- been in a lot of high profile movies

-"Highly praised... numerous awards... critically acclaimed... etc

"she is one of the first major stars among the youngest members of Generation Y" <--- This is a slightly confusing opening. May want to simply this statement too.

2) "Streamline material to incorporate a more encyclopedic format": There are several entries within the body of the article that soften the article. For example: "She made a third appearance on The Tonight Show on October 19, 2005, in which she demonstrated her technique for selling Girl Scout cookies." Information like this gives the article a very fansite feel to it. I think this article would do well with the elaboratation of significant experiences at the expense of the fluffy bits. (If you can think of a theme, all the better.)

Hopefully, I'm not being too harsh, as this is has the nucleus of being a very good article. It has good references, is generally well written, and is stable. (I must admmit I have no idea if it is broad in it's coverage though). If these few small details are fixed, then I see no reason why this can't be a good article!

In any case, if you have any questions, feel free to comment back! Cheers. --P-Chan 22:14, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Starlight Starbright

The talk about "Campaign to save wild horses" reminded me of Starlight Starbright, somethings she's actually involved in. Maybe someone who's not lazy like me (and bothers to get all the facts straight) should put it in. Arandomrabbit 22:59, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Nevermind, I think the caffine just kicked in. I'll do it myself. Arandomrabbit 23:04, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Kim Possible: A Sitch in Time

Can someone please add Kim Possible: A Sitch in Time to her filography?? I am not sure how to add it. I am not familiar with the structure. Lil Flip246 21:44, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

== ... ++

The information on this webpage is highly controversial and decidely pornographic. Of what use is it to anyone to know Dakota wears braces; making allusions to Roger Rabbit. Disgusting. All you sickos, drop off! I am her Husband, and you will not get away with any of it.

Indeed. IAmNotOnlyOne 13:46, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

Height, War of the Worlds

I took off Dakota's height because a) heights do not belong in an encyclopedia unless she is an unusually tall or short adult, b) Dakota is not yet done growing and c) Dakota has not verified her height-- I've seen her listed anywhere from 4' 7" to 5' 1" and she has never told anyone how tall she is. I also added in War of the Worlds to her list of notable roles because she is now very famous for being in that. Almost very time I see the name Dakota Fanning, it says War of the Worlds next to it in parentheses. Stephe1987 02:06, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

You really shouldn't site the height for anyone under the age of maybe 16. 142.161.64.236 18:07, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Even better, height should not be in anyone's article unless its notability can be asserted. Unless it's an integral part of that person's fame—Gary Coleman would be a prime example—I'd argue that it's fancruft and does not belong in an encyclopedia. RadioKirk (u|t|c) 18:20, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

I agree. Height is not really important, especially for a 12-year-old Child Actress who is going grow to be within the normal height range. Unless she is 6'+ (very tall for a girl) or is under 4' 8" as an adult, there is no reason for it to be on here.Stephe1987 03:21, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Aw, that picture's just plain mean.

There's got to be a SLIGHTLY more photogenic picture somewhere, no? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.58.245.168 (talk) 19:46, 3 January 2007 (UTC).

A little help

I need to know how to put in a picture. I've found several wonderful pictures on miss Fanning, but I do not know how to put them on the site. Could somebody please, please tell me how to do? 83.177.5.209 15:45, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, first, please read WP:FUC; fair-use images (anything owned by someone who retains copyright) cannot be used to identify a living, public person. Once you've read that, take a look at the page for the image that's in the article now to see how and where fair-use images are allowed. When you're done, come back and I'll help. :)

Meantime, I've removed your other comment; per talk page guidelines, this page exists to discuss only its accompanying article, sorry. RadioKirk (u|t|c) 15:53, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I don't understand why I have to read it. I don't really understand it either. Perhaps I hould just leave the images to editors who know how to put them in.83.177.5.209 15:46, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

No one said you had to; but you asked for help, and it's easier to know the rules in advance than to have your uploads deleted and have to ask why. :) RadioKirk (u|t|c) 15:49, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

If you know her personally, maybe you can just take a picture of her. And then you could put it under as GDFL since it's not on other sites. If you take pictures on other sites, most likely it will be copyviolated. If you take the picture with a camera, it would go under as GDFL. I find it easier to just take my own pictures rather than to take pictures off the internet. (209.177.21.6 - Talk)

Are you kidding? I don't know her; I've never even been to USA! But it would be something to meet her, though.83.177.4.59 18:29, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

In the Realms of the Unreal

Ms. Fanning narrated this film about artist Henry Darger in 2004. It should be included in her filmography. Anonymousmouse 05:48, 3 March 2007 (UTC) anonymousmouse

"Generally panned"

What does it mean to say that the movie was "generally panned"? --Bilge [T C] 23:08, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

It means that critics generally disliked the film.

Mentioned in 30 Rock

She's mentioned in the tv show 30 Rock. They say Tracy Jordan bit her face. is it worth a mention on the page? -Anthony- 10:04, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

American Blueberry?!

The first line of the article reads: "Dakota Fanning (born Hannah Dakota Fanning on February 23, 1994) is an American Blueberry."

What? QTaminhart 23:41, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

It is cause she has blue eyes.Daman1234 15:09, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Hounddog

Does anybody think that she would sign the realese for Hounddog, so she does not have to deal with the press again since they can get so annoying you just want to blast their heads off.Daman1234 15:15, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

child actress or just actress?

Dakota is a child actress. Why can't we mentioned that she is an American child actress. A user changed it to just American actress. Who's right? (Jessica - talk)

Well, she's not an adult technically speaking, so what's that supposed to mean?

For me we should just keep it as "American actress" so we dont have to wory about it in the future.Daman1234 14:40, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Actor, better put. ****************.com—Preceding unsigned comment added by Jesuschrist1134 (talk • contribs) 18:25, 27 December 2007 (UTC) *edit* don't put your email on the internet for your own safty Veggiegirl (talk) 23:27, 6 June 2008 (UTC) —Preceding

it should be Child Actor cause she is at the moment but when shes like 16 etc... i don't think shes a child star no more :) everyone esle has that like on Keira Knightleys saying she started out as a child actressVeggiegirl (talk) 23:28, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Man on Fire

In the Biography section in her 2004 to 2005 it says "...a nine-year-old who wins over the heart of the retired assassin (Denzel Washington) hired to protect her from kidnappers... there is an error in that statement (Denzel Washington) on the dvd release and on the script it states that he was a "burned out ex-CIA operative/assassin" not a "retired assassin" could we please change that so it is correct

I'm also changing that in the man on fire wiki

thank you—Preceding unsigned comment added by Benadamspears (talk • contribs) 18:43, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Picture

This picture appears to be a very nice picture, but, it seems to be a little out of date. I think if any one has a more up-to-date picture, that would be great if the could upload it. I understand it is very hard to find free pictures these days, but if anyone has a more recent picture, it would be absouloutley wonderful if they could upload it onto the article.

With all Due Respect, Tweedle20 (talk) 15:19, 28 September 2008 (UTC)Tweedle20

Like this one? [2] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.65.247.71 (talk) 18:45, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I like that one a lot, but it would be considered a violation of copyright if you upload it unless you took the picture yourself, which it looks like you didn't if it had a link to it. Tweedle20 (talk) 14:56, 24 October 2008 (UTC)Tweedle20

Thanks!

Whoever put this pic up, thank you very much. I am very happy that we have a more updated version! --Tweedle20 (talk) 01:46, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

1994

Dude she looks nothin' like she iz 13 she looks more like she's 10
User:Next Fiday — Preceding undated comment added 17:50, 9 April 2007‎ (UTC)

Dude, WotW premiered in 2005 when she was 11. Moorvis 18:32, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

1994 is correct. It doesn't matter whether or not they look their age, it matters what their birth certificate says. :P Stephe1987 (talk) 01:19, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Spam

Events in 2009 are in the future, at the moment, and remarks about them could be viewed as spamming.

...Not if they are backed up by reliable sources... Blooded Edge ^Contact 15:25, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Name

People call her by middle name not first. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Defender Of Justice (talk • contribs) 01:36, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

In an encyclopedia it should be also written the complete name of a star. --Pippo Berserk (talk) 14:10, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Have changed it back to do this. I can't find the specific policy on naming, but see Gordon Brown, George Eliot etc., where full name introduces article Jomunro (talk) 21:06, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

This is not a normal encyclopedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Montana's Defender (talk • contribs) 22:09, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

the runaways

the runaways is in post production, but the filmography section says it's filming. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.94.120.130 (talk) 20:33, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Surname is not Irish

Yeah just because she say's it is doesn't mean its so. The websites i sourced tell you its not irish but is ENGLISH. Alec Baldwin tried to say he was irish yet any evidence found has shown he mostly of English and French decent. So unless you can find any evidence shes of irish decent (you seem to be a fanatically pro irish person) then stop deleting my posts!

I've been her fan for a long time and i believe what she says is the truth and never has lied. As for you i would not believe a word you say and I would block you if I had the power. And if you want to start a war on [3] YOU WILL LOSE big time.

that is your view no one elses —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.58.159.114 (talk) 20:20, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

"Those variants beginning with Fa- may be derived from the Old English faenn"

Here is proof

http://www.houseofnames.com/xq/asp.c/qx/fanning-coat-arms.htm

http://www.irishsurnames.com/cgi-bin/gallery.pl?name=fanning&capname=Fanning&letter=f

http://www.familycoats.com/?fanning-family-crest

http://www.allfamilycrests.com/f/fanning-family-crest-coat-of-arms.shtml

Thats one family, the liklyhood of her being one of them is slim. The surname sites on google (www.surnamedb.com been one of them) show a large distribution of English fannings throughout the US and considering her family is Baptist it looks more likely.86.139.215.76 (talk) 08:24, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Betsy's Kindergarten Adventures

I don't know where you get your source from but that is just wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Montana's Defender (talk • contribs) 22:54, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

never had never will — Preceding unsigned comment added by Montana's Defender (talk • contribs) 03:17, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Dispute

I have protected this article for a week in light of the constant reverting on here. Please discuss your disputes here on the talk page of the article rather than continuing this edit war. Thank you, either way (talk) 19:47, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

My informations are true!!! You can check them:

The name of Dakota Fanning's character in "Uptown girls" is "Lorraine Schleine" and not "Laraine Schlein".(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uptown_Girls)
Dakota Fanning gives her voice to Sydney's character in "Betsy's Kindergarten Adventures" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betsy%27s_Kindergarten_Adventures)
The title of the movie is "Fragments" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fragments_(film))
Dakota Fanning is a little girl with the balloon in the Rufus Wainwright's music video "Across the Universe" (www.youtube.com) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pippo Berserk (talk • contribs) 23:23, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Facts in dispute

As far as I can see in the reverting, the issue here is the following facts:

Neck brace v. Neck bracket
Laraine "Ray" Schlein v. Lorraine Schleine, "Ray"
She was a voice in Betsy's Kindergarten Adventures
Winged Creatures v. Fragments - Winged Creatures
She was the girl with the balloon in the music video

These are the five things that Pippo added but Montana's Defender reverted out. So, let's go through and examine them. What reliable sources can we find or not find for them? either way (talk) 23:26, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

For the music video, here is a source ([4]). I can't find a really good source for it, but it's actually pretty to connect since Fanning plays Lucy in "I Am Sam," and this video is for a song from the movie's soundtrack. either way (talk) 23:42, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

For Laraine v. Lorraine, IMDB has "Lorraine 'Ray' Scheline" so I'd tend to side with that. On Google, only 2 results come up for Laraine and 718 come up for Lorraine, so it definitely seems to be Lorraine. And here's a movie review that uses Lorraine: [5].

In a search, the quote definitely says "neck brace" and not "neck bracket." I can find over 300 places that use the quote with "neck brace" and 0 that use "neck bracket." either way (talk) 23:54, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

It seems like the movie, Fragments was originally called Winged Creatures (since it's based on a novel of that name), but it eventually was released until the name Fragments. See reviews like this. either way (talk) 00:01, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

I can't find anything that says she was the voice in Betsy's Kindergarten Adventures. Can anyone else find sources? either way (talk) 00:11, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Ok, so waiting the informations about "Betsy's Kindergarten Adventures" cuold you at least please edit the others putting the right informations? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pippo Berserk (talk • contribs)

Info on Betsy's Kindergarten Adventures proven false —Preceding unsigned comment added by Montana's Defender (talk • contribs)

My Neighbor Totoro

She was the main character in the film in the 2006 Disney release, can someone please attribute this to her? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xeroxorex (talk • contribs) 23:25, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

Date of Birth

Her DOB is stated as 23 February 1992 on wikipedia. All other sources have it as 23 February 1994. Can someone verify it please? It's very important. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.115.117.121 (talk) 00:30, 22 March 2010 (UTC) Err, no it doesn't. Wildhartlivie (talk) 00:44, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Someone changed it to 1992 in the blurb, I changed it back to 1994. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.32.145.63 (talk) 06:14, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Currently this Wikipedia page has her DOB as 23 Feb in the box on the right and as 28 Feb at the start of the main text. Only one (or less) of the two can be true ;-) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.133.177.250 (talk) 03:50, 1 June 2014 (UTC)

Her Name?

Her Names Hannah...what? Scince when was her name Hannah? If her names Hannah why say it was her "middle name" Dakota? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.49.125.93 (talk) 13:18, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Um. They called her by her middle name. So what? "Scince" when does that need explaining? Wildhartlivie (talk) 13:36, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Better not tell 83.49.125.93 that Michael Keaton is really called Michael Douglas, think their head will implode ;) Seriously though, some actors use a different name as a stage name for various reasons, often because there is already an actor going by their name (Keaton possibly a good example) magnius (talk) 14:14, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Heh. I knew that. Maybe we shouldn't tell that there is probably a Hannah Fanning running around. Wildhartlivie (talk) 15:17, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

New image

Just letting editors here know that I have just uploaded a new picture of Dakota. Didn't want to add to the article if it wasn't needed, I'll leave that to you to decide. J Milburn (talk) 15:21, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for uploading the pic. I think it would be a nice addition lower on the page, but not in the infobox. Cresix (talk) 16:45, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

{{who}} template vs {{cn}} template

I've just changed the {{who}} template to a {{cn}} template as WHO doesn't seem right in the context.

I understand from discussion that the tag is to represent "Who said it", but that would perhaps be better represented by {{by whom}}

Moreover, the paragraph doesn't say that anybody has said it - it's just a statement, and in that respect needs the {{cn}} tag, as it's just an unsourced comment.

If it read "It has been said that her roles in "Blah blah blah" have helped her move from child actress to teen actress", then the {{who}} tag might be appropriate.

Link to relevant Wikipedia template page.

Comments?

a_man_alone (talk) 20:22, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

It should/must be cited, whatever tag is used to ask for a citation doesn't matter much. Gwen Gale (talk) 20:29, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

True, but which flows better and is more aesthetically correct? That's partly my point. To me {{who}} should be directed at a specific target, and in this case, it isn't. a_man_alone (talk) 20:39, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Either way, an inline citation is the only thing that could ever help that line. Gwen Gale (talk) 20:45, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Breaking Dawn Part 1

The Jane character did not appear in Breaking Dawn Part 1 and so Fanning didn't have a role in that movie. Also "Volturi" is not a last name but the name of the vampire coven that Jane belongs to. Slight Smile 00:59, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

My Sister's Keeper

Shouldn't we include the fact she was going to be cast as Kate in "My Sister's Keeper"'s film? She was going to play Kate, and Elle Fanning was going to play Anna, until Dakota learned she'd have to shave her head, at which point she dropped out, and so did Elle. So should we put this in here? 2.25.252.139 (talk)--2.25.252.139 (talk) 19:22, 21 June 2013 (UTC) Ellie

Too many images

I think this article has way too many images. What's the point of showing how she looks like every year? Wikipedia not an image album. Someone has to remove unnecessary images. I have a feeling that some of these images are not even licensed properly.--Chamith (talk) 16:20, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

2008-2011

The "Twilight" reference has a wrong link.2600:8800:50B:6700:C23F:D5FF:FEC5:89B6 (talk) 00:14, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

Early years - Dakota

Gloragrooms (talk) 15:52, 20 April 2017 (UTC) The following information currently appearing on the site is inaccurate and can be verified simply by the dates already appearing in the article itself:

When Fanning was a small child, she was an actress at the Towne Lake Arts Center in Woodstock, Georgia, starring in small plays, then in 1999, Fanning began acting at the age of five after appearing on a Tide commercial.

The truth: Dakota never set foot in the Towne Lake Arts Center as she was already in Hollywood due to filming I Am Sam when the arts center opened in 2002. The person who opened that Arts Center also happened to be the person to send her to her first agent in 1999.

The correct information has been attempted to be placed in the article with little success. First attempt there were no cited links and it was rejected. Second attempt included links to cite as proof but are in question due to copyright questions. First link to AJC article belongs to the AJC itself. Second link is a YouTube link to a clip that was already out there and I assume approved by YouTube.

The accurate version: When Fanning was barely 5 years old in 1999, she attended a Performing Arts North summer drama camp in Roswell, Georgia - appearing as The Little BlueFish in a musical adaptation of "The Rainbow Fish" - her first public performance. Atlanta Journal Constitution December 21, 2006 "Local director acts as catalyst for young talent" Footage of this camp appearance was eventually used on a 2005 Barbara Walters special. [[6]] The Artistic Director of the summer camp, G. Lora Grooms, recognized a unique quality in Dakota and recommended her parents carefully consider getting her an agent. As it turns out, Dakota had been telling her parents since the age of 4 she needed an agent because she was supposed to be an actress. Grooms recommended HotShot Kids in Atlanta where Dakota booked her first television appearances. Gloragrooms (talk) 15:52, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

This page should be semi-protected.

I keep seeing annoying edits, and I really like this actress. Please make it semi-protected, thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joey kl22 (talk • contribs) 05:08, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

The place to ask for protection is WP:RPP, but I don't see anything here that warrants protection. You've never edited the article and annoying edits are not something that needs to be protected against. Meters (talk) 05:15, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

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