Talk:Daniel Lyons

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This is a page about me[edit]

Hi folks, I’ve never inquired about my page before but there are a few small changes I would like to ask you about.

I was never a “tech analyst” — just a tech reporter. Could you fix that section heading?

Last year I published a new book. Could you add the new book to my page? The title of the hardcover is: “Lab Rats: How Silicon Valley Made Work Miserable for the Rest of Us.” The paperback edition will come out later this year and will have a different subtitle but for now that subtitle is accurate.

On my early life and education could you add that I got my undergrad degree, a BA in Liberal Arts, from Bradford College in Bradford, Massachusetts.

The stuff in final paragraph about Breitbart is inaccurate. I did not pitch story ideas about Zoe Quinn and Amber Discko to Milo Yiannopoulos. I did not urge Milo or anyone at Breitbart to write about those people. I had no idea who those people were. I saw them participating in an argument on Twitter that involved Milo, and I wrote him email asking about them. Each email was one sentence long. FWIW I have never met Milo and don’t share his political beliefs. I sent those emails in 2015.

Danlyonsauthor (talk) 23:05, 23 April 2019 (UTC) Dan Lyons danxlyons@gmail.com[reply]

Issues with final section: proposed delete or rewrite[edit]

Hello Dan. I noticed some of what you mention when i was looking at the article yesterday (two years after you asked this question...). The text regarding Breitbart, etc., seems heavier on suggestion and innuendo than actual information. I tried some searches to figure it out. Which brings me to what I consider to be the larger problem:

In my Google searches the results were dominated by Wikipedia and clones of this page. Wikipedia is not intended to play that role.

This section needs to be either given some serious attention, including figuring out what makes it meet Wiki's significance requirement, or deleted. Moran Wright (talk) 18:13, 22 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This section just is not appropriate as written. It is based entirely on a single source. And one sentence in that single source. Further that sentence is slanted, even prejudiced. It offers no support that Lyons emailed Milo "periodically" to ask if the subject is male or female or male by birth, and that assertion is more than a little absurd. And the article uses the single exchange it possessed--from hacked personal emails--to suggest that Lyons is a "liberal helper" of Breitbart. Another assertion the email exchange does not in any way support.

The sentence in question is about 2/3rd into this article, and is followed by a screenshot of the emails in question: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/josephbernstein/heres-how-breitbart-and-milo-smuggled-white-nationalism

At this point, Wikipedia and its many clones are the main source carrying this ...information? A search for "Daniel Lyons" and Breitbart (or other operative terms) turns up almost entirely Wiki links.

And Wiki's text added inaccurate summation of the Buzzfeed article on top of the issues with the source. There were not multiple emails, nor were there multiple subjects. The construction "questioned the birth gender" suggests a malice that is not at all evident in Lyons' emails.

There may be a more appropriate way to write about this, if it is deemed significant enough. But it is beyond me at this point. Maybe it is notable s that it occurred in October 2017, as the Me Too movement was heating up. It is of a certain time. I don't think Buzzfeed, or many other publications, would publish an assertion like that now. Moran Wright (talk) 23:30, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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