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Find correct name
The airport is not listed as João Paulo II anywhere.
The airport's own website calls itself simply Ponta Delgada, and has no mention of João Paulo.
Template:Regions of Portugal: statistical (NUTS3) subregions and intercommunal entities are confused; they are not the same in all regions, and should be sublisted separately in each region: intermunicipal entities are sometimes larger and split by subregions (e.g. the Metropolitan Area of Lisbon has two subregions), some intercommunal entities are containing only parts of subregions. All subregions should be listed explicitly and not assume they are only intermunicipal entities (which accessorily are not statistic subdivisions but real administrative entities, so they should be listed below, probably using a smaller font: we can safely eliminate the subgrouping by type of intermunicipal entity from this box).
The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Not moved. There is no consensus for the proposed move after two relistings. Station1 (talk) 00:03, 6 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 17:21, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. GiantSnowman 11:49, 30 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Wrong, standard disambiguation for footballers is year of birth, as you have been told before. GiantSnowman 11:36, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
No, it isn't, as you've been told before and as I've shown above through the links to both the policy page and the relevant guideline, and in other discussions to the other relevant guideline at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people)#Disambiguating: "Years of birth and death are not normally used as disambiguators (readers are more likely to be seeking this information than to already know it)". DrKay (talk) 11:52, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it is, as shown by the vast number of footballer articles that are disambiguated by year of birth! Indeed Wikipedia:Naming conventions (sportspeople)#Association football (soccer) says "If there are multiple footballers with the same name, use the most conclusive of the following steps: [...] If the footballers were born in different years, use the year they were born". In the vast majority of cases YOB is the most conclusive. Stop mis-quoting guidelines to try and get your own way. GiantSnowman 13:52, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You fail to understand - for whatever reason - what there are multiple ways suggested at that page about how to name, but that in practice one (year of birth) is preferred. GiantSnowman 18:09, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I don't misunderstand at all, as is clear from my comments. A continued ad hominem personal attack is still an ad hominem personal attack. DrKay (talk) 19:22, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Please point me in the direction of my personal attacks? GiantSnowman 19:39, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment That guideline is very confusing. Why say "most conclusive", but then in the same sentence say "steps", implying that there is a sequence to be followed? The logic seems to be that, rather than just picking YOB to start with, you begin with nationality, and only if both are from the same country, then proceed to YOB.-- P-K3 (talk) 19:58, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, the numbers aren't order of preference in the slightest. GiantSnowman 20:26, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per DrKay. If project participants want to override existing policy so birth years are preferred disambiguation for footballers, there needs to be a central discussion. --BDD (talk) 17:08, 28 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@BDD: and where does it say that nationality is the preferred disambiguation for footballers? GiantSnowman 21:20, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
WP:NCPDAB of course! The guidelines for footballers are a logical subset of that. --BDD (talk) 21:42, 29 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Unless we're asserting that footballers aren't people, the broader guidance applies too, just as much as WP:AT would. I see no reason to prefer a title supported by one guideline and against another vs. one compliant with both. --BDD (talk) 13:50, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Incorrect; YOB is the most common/preferred method of disambiguation, given that nationality is fluid in footballers. GiantSnowman 23:00, 5 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
