Talk:David Rivera

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""Rep. David Rivera's war with Wikipedia"". Politico. 4/7/11. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help)

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It looks like Mr. Rivera wrote this wiki himself. Something needs to be done about it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.176.245.57 (talk) 20:38, 13 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

NPOV edits[edit]

I removed a whole bunch of new material that was a verbatim copy/paste from Rivera's campaign site [1]. Per WP:NPOV, Wikipedia is not the place to promote a candidate. That said, if someone wants to flesh out the issues section of the article in a neutral way with citations, I think that would be welcomed by everyone. Arbor832466 (talk) 21:09, 13 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Conflict of interest editing[edit]

I already warned the user, but thought this was also worth noting here; see [2] Arbor832466 (talk) 23:11, 14 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Politico[edit]

"Rep. David Rivera war with Wikipedia" "The Florida Republican's staffers are carefully policing his Wikipedia entry." article by Marin Cogan in Politico 4/7/11 4:37 AM EDT Updated: 4/7/11 6:46 AM EDT User:Fred Bauder Talk 11:03, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit in story User:Fred Bauder Talk 11:11, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Should the Politico story be added as a new controversy? (Aximill (talk) 14:02, 7 April 2011 (UTC))[reply]

No, I think we need to step back for a minute. Due to the inevitable flood of post Politico angst edits I've requested a page protect here. Keep in mind that this is a WP:BLP and of a freshmen Congressmen no less. Let's look for good sources with solid reporting on things that are biographically relevant and then bring them here to discuss before we put them in. TomPointTwo (talk) 15:19, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

What exactly is irrelevant about having your press secretary whitewash your Wikipedia page and having that make national news? I mean, this seems like a significant story to me, certainly one worth a brief NPOV mention. I don't think we need paragraphs upon paragraphs, but surely a sentence or two is reasonable. 24.151.11.122 (talk) 15:50, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Don't jump to conclusions. I haven't yet said anything is or isn't relevant; I was just urging that care be taken and changes be discussed. I'd also suggest that you refrain from hyperbolic and inflammatory language like "whitewash". We have a tradition of assuming good faith here. TomPointTwo (talk) 17:17, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Methinks the allegation(which has been reported by several news sources) of having a political figures' press secretary whitewashing a Wikipedia page to remove politically damaging information is very relevant. I would also say that having the politico article mentioned above would count as a "good source" and as "solid reporting" and the inevitable flood coming from the visibility of the news story would be valuable to this Wikipedia entry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oneromnala (talk • contribs) 18:05, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, but I disagree. WP:BLP requires that we look at the totality of someone's career. This is one mention in an article, and it's not even really about him - it's about HER. In my opinion, this has no place in this article. - Philippe 20:16, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Agree, it's about her, not about him. And as much as it may have been not-NPOV, this article would seem to be significantly lacking his voting records and anything he's actually done, other than his controversies. In the interest of balance, some of that content should probably be considered as worthy for inclusion if references are available etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.171.25.88 (talk) 22:24, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It has a place.

Beutler quoted in Politico: “All Wikipedia aims to do is reflect what is public knowledge and has been widely reported.... Anything publicly reported about their career is fair game for a Wikipedia article.”

Wikipedia isn't equipped to go beyond that aim. Calamitybrook (talk) 10:55, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Wikipedia editing, and the information removed, appears to me to be right on the boundary between what is acceptable and what is not. Obviously some things happened, and they have not been adequately explained, but we do not have reliable sources for exactly what did happen. And our article reflects that; which is fair enough. User:Fred Bauder Talk 12:56, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"Campaign Consultants' Wikipedia Problem" by Noah Rothman writing on campaignsandelections.com April 12, 2011, 9:27 AM

Ryan Hawkins, president of the nonpartisan, Washington, D.C.–based Winding Creek Group, says that while the game has evolved, the rules remain the same. “Campaigns and good campaign managers who ‘get it’ know you cannot manipulate sites like Wikipedia without paying a price,” says Hawkins. “It falls under the ‘don't do something stupid’ rule, which more times than not will kill a campaign.”

WP:BEAN User:Fred Bauder Talk 02:31, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This Article Is Hopelessly Out Of Date and Potentially Defamatory of Nonpublic Figures[edit]

This article is hopelessly out-of-date. I updated one part relating to Rivera's girlfriend. She is not "currently" cutting here in Nicaragua. She was informally extradited back to the US, charged, pled guilty, and sentenced. There are large swaths of material completely unsourced and potentially defamatory to living persons who are not public figures. The entire article should be deleted or brought up to date by someone interested in Florida politics, not me. FYI, there are reputable newspapers and/or other sources linking some of the figures in this article to Marco Rubio.12.227.140.232 (talk) 17:16, 16 March 2016 (UTC)Da5id403 (talk) 17:20, 16 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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