Talk:Decauville wagon

Interlanguage connection[edit]

How do I connect Decauville wagon to the original Vagonetto Decauville from which it was translated. Peter Horn User talk 19:10, 6 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In other words I can not add the original Vagonetto Decauville in other languages. Peter Horn User talk 01:14, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ciao Pietro. Is this what you were looking for? Also Pietro aka --Shirt58 (talk) 🦘 10:19, 13 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"Vagonetto Decauville" listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

The redirect Vagonetto Decauville has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 June 13 § Vagonetto Decauville until a consensus is reached. Tollens (talk) 17:12, 13 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Referencces / sources[edit]

@Partofthemachine: Good luck in finding referencces / sources. Any material that may still exist is buried in obscure archives Peter Horn User talk 20:24, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

NG wagons Peter Horn User talk 20:33, 26 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not "artsy-fartsy", but a legitimate illustration[edit]

@Voidxor: The photo came from it: Vagonetto Decauville and is a legitimate illustration of civilian use. Peter Horn User talk 23:32, 30 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's actually not an illustration; it's a photo that's been edited to look like a painted illustration, or some such. If you click to zoom, you'll see the blotchy brush-stroke effect. I don't find it to truly represent the topic being discussed. If the uploader could provide an unadulterated copy of the original photograph, that would work. — voidxor 23:53, 30 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Also, please knock it off with your recent obsession with putting excessive galleries on every article within WikiProject Trains. The articles look worse afterwards. They have too many images per WP:GALLERY, don't display as well on smartphones and other mediums (hence the purpose of a single thumbnail in the lead), and violate WP:IMGSIZE by forcing a width or height in pixels. — voidxor 00:03, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

How can you tell that it has been painted? I tracked down fr:Utilisateur:GdML who unfortunately can not answer from the grave. Painted, or not painted, it represents the Decauville wagon in three languages. Peter Horn User talk 19:21, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The creator of this image fr:utilisateur:GdML created the French article fr:Chemin de fer de la forêt de Soignes where he used the image. Peter Horn User talk 19:47, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I never said it was painted; I said it's a picture that's been altered to look like a painted illustration. Viewing the original image, there's clearly a posterization or brush effect. The file page says it was illustrated, but also originated from the camera on an iPhone. It makes for a less true-to-life image, and lowers its value for representing the subject here.

You've been overdoing it with the photos lately. Wikipedia is not an image repository, per WP:GALLERY. The goal is not to exhaustively plaster every available image on every Trains article. Just one image will usually do for stubs like this. Also, having an image on both the right and the left violates MOS:SANDWICH. That motivated me to remove the one image; I kept the clear photograph, and chose to remove the grainy fake illustrated one. — voidxor 20:47, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My appology. English: An illustrated photo of a Decauville wagon is a bad translation of Français : Wagon-tombereau Decauville on the part of user:GdML the word "illustrated" is totally superfluous. The image stands on its own merit. Peter Horn User talk 22:46, 1 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

All said, the two original files in Decauville wagon came from Vagonetto Decauville at the time of translation, and is used on a number of French Wikis as well. You are the first one to flag it as a "fake". Peter Horn User talk 00:01, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I said it was a fake illustration, not a fake photo. I still don't understand why somebody would get creative and artistic with a photo before uploading it to represent the subject on an encyclopedia. — voidxor 02:31, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What is your evidence? No other contributor to any othre article in three languages have questioned this file or image.The orginal uploader, [[user:GdML[[ is no longer alive to explain. Peter Horn User talk 14:17, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

To say that a point can't be argued because nobody else has ever argued it is a small-minded fallacy. My "evidence" is looking at the original image (e.g. 100% zoom)—which it sounds like you still haven't done—and the iPhone metadata and "illustration" label left behind by the uploader. This isn't rocket science. The photo has obviously been dumbed down to look like an illustration. I keep saying this and citing the image page itself, so I don't understand why you're still denying the obvious.

P.S. If you have evidence that a Wikipedian is deceased, you should report that so that their user page can be protected. At least, that's the process at Wikipedia; I'm not sure about Commons. — voidxor 15:07, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This page, I guess...? — voidxor 15:12, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Try this. I found that at the outset. Peter Horn User talk 17:26, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Good for you...?! I'm confused as to what your point is. I think you are too, judging by how you get on these tangents. — voidxor 17:34, 3 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have shown another so called Deauville wagon. Peter Horn User talk 02:57, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]