Talk:Declaration on Great Apes

Picture

The picture shows a monkey not a great ape. Can we have an appropriate picture please! --Dumbo1 00:20, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

yeah, that is pretty bloody stupid, I dont have any pics myself so anyone with anyone with some will hoefully have to stumble by thiss. NeoRicen 10:24, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

That image is there because it is part of the animal rights movement banner thingy that is on the right hand side of the page, which is automatically there because this is in the animal rights category or something.--Joe 1987 20:41, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

Can we change the animal rights image to a chimpanzee?

Put on the book of law?

Didn't Spain sign the "Declaration on Great Apes" into its national constitution recently? During the 2006 autumn season there were a lot of political caricatures in newspapers and on websites, contrasting Spain's release of gorillas with USA's confinement of Gitmo secret detainees. 82.131.210.162 16:24, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Notable

This article has several related problems:

1. There is no documentation of notability. As the only source given for any info about the declaration is the declaration itself. "A topic is presumed to be notable if it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject....'Sources,'[4] defined on Wikipedia as secondary sources, provide the most objective evidence of notability....'Independent of the subject' excludes works produced by those affiliated with the subject including: self-publicity, advertising, self-published material by the subject, autobiographies, press releases, etc.[7]" WP:NOTABLE#General_notability_guideline
2. There are no sources for the article. "If no reliable, third-party sources can be found for an article topic, Wikipedia should not have an article on it."WP:V#Burden_of_evidence
3. Several living people are/were listed as in some way contribution to or supporting the declaration, but there are no cites to back this up. "Unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material — whether negative, positive, or just questionable — about living persons should be removed immediately and without discussion from Wikipedia articles,[2] talk pages, user pages, and project space." WP:BLP

Mdbrownmsw 15:42, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Merger proposal

Bearing in mind the criticisms raised above, I propose merging this page into Great Ape Project. They cover substantially similar topics; this article even begins 'The Great Ape Project is...', suggesting it is the real subject of this article. It seems to me that Wikipedia could easily cover all the information related to this declaration on the Great Ape Project page, rather than having it exist as a separate article. Please comment on this merger proposal below. Terraxos 02:06, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Merge. The info could easily fit in one article. --Padraic 18:42, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Merge - No demonstration that the Declaration is notable by itself, easily included in the Project article. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 13:39, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Merge - Still needs more reliable references though to make it notable enough to be included. Jack (talk) 16:33, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and merged the articles as this proposal is nearly a year old now! Jack (talk) 16:49, 21 October 2008 (UTC)