Talk:Demographics of the United States

Should "Vital Statistics" be changed to "Vital Parameters"

The section "Vital Statistics" is misnamed, as the data contained pertains to a population instead of a sample of a population- so it's parameters, not stats.

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— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:191:200:43aa:1bd:220c:ab0e:8875 (talk • contribs) 11:28, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

"Vital Statistics" is what's used in the cited sources, and I've never heard the term "Vital Parameters". -- Beland (talk) 23:29, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

Page renaming - Demographics or Demography

This article was recently moved from "Demographics of the United States" to "Demography of the United States". It appears that this was a bold move, without any discussion. As best I can tell, Demographics is the preferred term in American English while Demography is the preferred term in British English. "Demography of the United States" sounds pretty weird to my American ears. Clearly, we should be using American English for this article. This needs to be moved back to Demographics, absent any discussion and consensus for the move. CAVincent (talk) 19:53, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

Update on Population of the United States

This article uses July 1, 2021, and I would like to update it to January 1, 2022. The population as of January 1, 2022 is 332,403,650 according to the US Census Bureau. I do not want to edit it without discussing because the last time I did that, it didn't end well. I also have a population pyramid, but it might be copyrighted as I have found it on the Internet. Allan Polatcan (talk) 15:43, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

Feel free to change the number then so long as you change the source within the infobox so it does not link back to the July 2021 figure. If you found the population pyramid online then it would most likely be copyrighted yes. If you are up to it, feel free to create your own population pyramid to update it. Tweedle (talk) 19:18, 10 September 2022 (UTC)

ok Allan Polatcan (talk) 15:54, 11 September 2022 (UTC)

The static population pyramid image with ethnicities marked is blatantly inaccurate

Population pyramid by race/ethnicity in 2020

It doesn't reflect the real composition. Whites are 57.8% of the total, whereas this image shows about 80%. What is this, the 50s? According to the image, the least white age bracket is still 71% white (age 0), which is mathematically impossible. Can anyone explain the discrepancy? MrThe1And0nly (talk) 09:58, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

@MrThe1And0nly For quick clarity are you on about this one? I agree that it does look odd on the lack of Hispanic's on the population pyramid compared to the Black population, which atleast seems larger on there when it shouldn't. I am neither sure on what the year the population pyramid attains to either, maybe it is 2010? However the file was made in 2021. Feel free to remove and I will create one for this either today or tommorow. Tweedle (talk) 12:03, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

Ah I believe I have found the discrepency, using the data table 1/1/2020 to 6/1/2020 from Monthly Postcensal Resident Population plus Armed Forces Overseas from the source file on the original image, using the first month;

If you look at the column for Non-Hispanic White newborns (0) for males for example it is below 1 million at 957,909 however looking at White alone Male 0 year olds it is 1,389,975 which would match up better to what is shown so I believe the original creator must have used the wrong race columns. Ofcourse this is assuming that it is based off of the 2020 file, however I do not believe there would be an extra 400,000 odd babies for Non-Hispanic Whites in any of the years previous. Looking at the 2010 file, 0 year old non-Hispanic White males are 1,021,535

Fixed this now with my own, see image attached to this section now. Tweedle (talk) 15:16, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

Tweedle (talk) 12:22, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

Nice, you fixed it. My bad, I thought I had linked the image I was talking about but seem to have forgotten. And you switched the inaccurate image for the correct one in other topics as well. Thanks. MrThe1And0nly (talk) 17:53, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

No problem! Tweedle (talk) 20:54, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

Problems with references

I noticed that the numbers in the section "Dependency ratio" seemed unreasonable, so I followed the references and confirmed that they should be percentages. However, ref 32 ( https://www.census.gov/data/tables/time-series/demo/popest/2020s-national-detail.html ) does not provide the ratios. It gives a link to an XL spreadsheet with populations in different categories, which can be combined to calculate the ratios. Is this OK?

Note, too, that the cited page and data have been updated for 2022, so its values are no longer exactly the same as those in the Wikipedia page.

Also, I don't see the country rankings in ref 42 ( https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/field/dependency-ratios/ ). Maybe an older version of the page included them?

Fcy (talk) 18:00, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

I would remove the country comparison as they are not dated to a specific year and I have no clue what year they pertain to. On the calculation, yeah that's fine I would not worry about that. Most references on Demography stuff is usually excel spreadsheets and the like, so long as the figure is correct it does not matter that much. Tweedle (talk) 18:31, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

Missing "per thousand", maybe

American women are remarkable , but it’s hard to believe there are 1,663.5 births per every woman. ☆ Bri (talk) 02:55, 30 March 2024 (UTC)