Talk:Demoparty
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"Demo party" or "demoparty"?[edit]
As far as I saw, most places prefer "demoparty" - but then, why are all the party articles written as "Breakpoint demo party" or "Assembly demo party"? I would prefer Breakpoint (demoparty). // Gargaj 16:24, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
- Honestly, I don't care. Europeans usually use the compound-word style, while Americans usually prefer two words. I don't think it's worth the trouble of changing every "demo party" article to "demoparty", though. There are always redirects.. --Vossanova 14:47, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
- I would prefer to use the proper English spelling, which I believe is "demo party". The reason it's often spelled as "demoparty" by demosceners is because in some of their native languages (such as German and Dutch), the proper spelling is to just mash words together to form new ones. In short: I agree. Nmrd 21:29, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
- Gargaj's edit of the split suggestion brought this topic back to my mind. Seeing that I changed most of the party articles to the "Name (demo party)" format, and the category is "Demo parties", I'd like to hear yays and nays on moving this article to "Demo party", with Demoparty redirecting, of course. --Vossanova o< 18:12, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
- I'd go for "demoparty". As said, it's the European way, and it's a largely European phenomenon. Every party in Europe calls itself "demoparty", I believe, hence we should follow suit, especially since it's demoscene and demogroup. // Gargaj 18:29, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
- Ouch. Google counts: "Demo party" 88,500, "Demoparty" 151,000. Still, I somehow think that including the space makes it easier to understand for people unfamiliar with the concept. I would personally argue that "demogroup" should be "demo group" as well, for the same reason (compare with LAN party, music group). On the other hand, I'm fine with "demoscene". Hypocrite, you say? Well, not as many people easily understand a "scene" vs a "party" or "group", and the demoscene is more of a concept than the other two terms. I'm not asking Europeans to stop spelling it like they do (i.e., as Nmrd put it, "mashing words together"), but I would like to make these Wikipedia articles as "proper" English as possible. --Vossanova o< 20:36, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
- Google is not everything. Here's my suggestion: Follow gargaj's suggestions since they have some valid points and make articles called "demo scene", "demo party", "demospacesomthing" ... which are not redirects but short describtions and why the term is commonly used without the space. Correct English is nice but languages aren't static. And the party articles ... Just use both versions, it's like "color" and "colour". ;) For a really stupid but interesting discussion on how an article named should be: Talk:I Love New York. --32X 21:58, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
- You're a wise one, 32X. The only reason I spend this much time with the discussion is that Wikipedia is one of the few remaining user-contributed sites I can visit at work that's not blocked. :/ Tell you what.. I'll leave the article name as-is, and add a sentence or two (someday) about how the different terms are used. And yes, English is a changing, dynamic language, although I hope I'm dead by the time OMG KTHX ROFL makes it into the Oxford Dictionary. :) --Vossanova o< 23:06, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
- I like the idea of "demo scene" though. "The demo scene is an overseas variant of the demoscene. Its most significant difference from the demoscene is the lack of beer and the additional amount of seminars." :D // Gargaj 14:59, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
- You're a wise one, 32X. The only reason I spend this much time with the discussion is that Wikipedia is one of the few remaining user-contributed sites I can visit at work that's not blocked. :/ Tell you what.. I'll leave the article name as-is, and add a sentence or two (someday) about how the different terms are used. And yes, English is a changing, dynamic language, although I hope I'm dead by the time OMG KTHX ROFL makes it into the Oxford Dictionary. :) --Vossanova o< 23:06, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
- Google is not everything. Here's my suggestion: Follow gargaj's suggestions since they have some valid points and make articles called "demo scene", "demo party", "demospacesomthing" ... which are not redirects but short describtions and why the term is commonly used without the space. Correct English is nice but languages aren't static. And the party articles ... Just use both versions, it's like "color" and "colour". ;) For a really stupid but interesting discussion on how an article named should be: Talk:I Love New York. --32X 21:58, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
- Ouch. Google counts: "Demo party" 88,500, "Demoparty" 151,000. Still, I somehow think that including the space makes it easier to understand for people unfamiliar with the concept. I would personally argue that "demogroup" should be "demo group" as well, for the same reason (compare with LAN party, music group). On the other hand, I'm fine with "demoscene". Hypocrite, you say? Well, not as many people easily understand a "scene" vs a "party" or "group", and the demoscene is more of a concept than the other two terms. I'm not asking Europeans to stop spelling it like they do (i.e., as Nmrd put it, "mashing words together"), but I would like to make these Wikipedia articles as "proper" English as possible. --Vossanova o< 20:36, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
- I'd go for "demoparty". As said, it's the European way, and it's a largely European phenomenon. Every party in Europe calls itself "demoparty", I believe, hence we should follow suit, especially since it's demoscene and demogroup. // Gargaj 18:29, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
- Gargaj's edit of the split suggestion brought this topic back to my mind. Seeing that I changed most of the party articles to the "Name (demo party)" format, and the category is "Demo parties", I'd like to hear yays and nays on moving this article to "Demo party", with Demoparty redirecting, of course. --Vossanova o< 18:12, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
- I would prefer to use the proper English spelling, which I believe is "demo party". The reason it's often spelled as "demoparty" by demosceners is because in some of their native languages (such as German and Dutch), the proper spelling is to just mash words together to form new ones. In short: I agree. Nmrd 21:29, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
"Memes" at demoparties?[edit]
Maybe a section about popular repetitive events at demoparties? ("hallowas", "rob is jarig", "kill all audio and lights", ...) // Gargaj 19:38, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
- Not yet.. wouldn't be too interesting to people outside the demoscene, would it? --Vossanova 19:07, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
List of demo parties[edit]
The list of "notable" demo parties is becoming a bit too long, and it's of my opinion that many on the list are not notable (namely ones that started up in the past year or two). Vanity is definitely coming into the list. Likewise, I'm starting to think that just because a certain party is the only one in a country, it doesn't necessarily make it notable. So, I suggest one of two actions: a) clean up the list to show only the truly notable ones, or b) split the list into its own article, where we can add all the parties we want. --Vossanova o< 15:06, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
- It's pretty hard to measure if a party is notable or not. There are too many factors and different people would come to different results. I therefore'd go for option b, split. --32X 15:55, 3 September 2006 (UTC)