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Deqin, not Dêqên

This article should be moved from Dêqên County to Deqin County for three reasons. The accompanying three arguments are:

1. Dêqên is the common name. Regardless of the official name used by the Chinese government, the common name in English prevails.
2. Dêqên is the official name used in English.
3. Dêqên is the Tibetan name, so we should use that instead of Deqin, the Chinese name (subjective, non-policy).

However, these are incorrect because:

1. Dêqên is not the common name. Using Google Ngrams, compare Diqin with Deqen and Deqin County with Deqen County (Dêqên does not have enough mentions to even appear on the graph).
2. Dêqên is not the official name in English. The county government's website uses Deqin, as does state media (e.g. CGTN article).
3. Dêqên is not the original Tibetan name for the area; there was not one at all because Tibetans did not choose the borders of this county, the Chinese government did. While the name does come from Tibetan བདེ་ཆེན, Dêqên is the Tibetan pinyin spelling, which was created by the Chinese government. The subjective, non-policy crux of this argument is that we should retain Tibetan names for Tibetan areas, rather than blindly follow the Chinese government's respelling and renaming of important ethnic minority places. However, as the Tibetans did not claim this area prior to the Chinese government creating the county, there is no "original name" to retain. Opposing the Chinese government's decisions is also undercut by the fact that Dêqên was the spelling decided upon by the Chinese government. Of course Wikipedia could use the Wylie spelling Bde-chen, but I am sure everyone would agree that is the worst choice because not only is it neither common nor official, but it will likely be misread as "B" does not indicate a distinct sound in Wylie, but it does in English.

For these three reasons, I am moving this article from Dêqên County to Deqin County. Yue🌙 17:30, 7 November 2023 (UTC)

Move discussion in progress

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Dêqên Tibetan Autonomous Prefecture which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 06:32, 9 November 2023 (UTC)