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Raoult's Medical Recommendations Misrepresented

Raoult ALWAYS recommended and treated his patients, now numbering over 3000, with Zinc, Azithromicin and HCQ. The last 2 sentences misleadingly ignore that the HCQ induces cells to take on the zinc which inhibits the RNA replication, and the Azithromicin which suppresses the pneumonia. HCQ alone trials demonstrate what he predicted, no effect. The wiki editor does not cite the pre-cytokine storm intent of Rault's treatment. That is RNA replication suppression and HCQ as the diffusion gateway. This is a criminal ideological lie. Lancet an NEJM both retracted their criticism of HCQ because of the same hodge-podging of the data. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.89.228.162 (talk) 23:36, 8 June 2020 (UTC) The assertion that HCQ does not help in treatment of Covid-19 is linked to an article that does not state so. The article states that "the results of this study do not support its use in patients admitted to hospital with COVID-19 who require oxygen". Nobody ever stated that HCQ should be used in case of need of oxygen, but only in early fevery stages. The wiki editor shall delete the assertion or modify it, because at tyhe moment is wrong and misleading, not to say worst. Alex Rome 74 -

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Allegations of scientific misconduct, bullying and covering up of sexual harassment

Leonid Schneider over at https://forbetterscience. com/2020/03/26/chloroquine-genius-didier-raoult-to-save-the-world-from-covid-19/ has published an article on Didier Raoult, while FBS is on the spam blacklist and is self published, and therefore cannot be considered a reliable source, many of the allergations made within the piece are covered in french sources, some of these (les-crises.fr) appear to be self-published blogs and therefore unreliable but others are unions and offical government documents will need to be assessed by contributors. I would also like to know what contributors make of pubpeer as a reliable source for BLP stuff like this, my gut feeling is no as the content is self published by the contributor, but I would like to hear your thoughts. Hemiauchenia (talk) 23:46, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

The article was linked in an approving manner by several experts, including Mathew Ingram (a senior journalist at the Columbia Journalism Review) [1], David Gorski [2], and Steve Silberman [3]. The site should not be on the blacklist. It looks like it was placed there by one admin unilaterally without discussion after a single incident.
That said, the article still seems to be a self-published post that should not be cited by itself under the BLP policy. But it is worth examining the aspects that it highlights for possible inclusion in this article, based on different sources (including some of those that Schneider cites), and being extra scrupulous about Raoult's own claims of scientific breakthroughs.
Regards, HaeB (talk) 05:53, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 April 2020

Please add at the bottom of the last paragraph of the last section of this article, a Line to the effect that, "The report on the most recent clinical results, which Prof. Raoult provided to Pres. Macron, among others, is as follows:--" [4] 73.252.160.107 (talk) 19:33, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

No. When it comes to medical claims, WP:MEDRS requires better sourcing than a un-peer-reviewed summary. --Nat Gertler (talk) 20:45, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
 Not done: please provide better reliable sources that support the change you want to be made, as explained above. Cedix (talk) 21:45, 11 April 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 April 2020

MagCarco (talk) 18:57, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

remove : They have three children together. Add : They have two children together. He has a daughter from a previous mariage.

@MagCarco:  Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. GoingBatty (talk) 23:02, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

Hi, actually I am the daughter by a previous union, and his wife is not my mother. I think I am the most reliable source. MagCarco (talk) 04:36, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

@MagCarco: His daughter would be a reliable source, but Wikipedia believes in verifiability from independent reliable sources. GoingBatty (talk) 15:56, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

hi here it is :"Didier Raoult est marié depuis 1982 avec Natacha Caïn, psychiatre, dont il a deux enfants." https://didierraoult.com I don't care about not being there as long as there is no lie about my own mother. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MagCarco (talkcontribs) 16:24, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

 Done I have adjusted the statement to him having two children with Cain. Closer magazine is not tested and established as a reliable source (at WP:RSN), and this is the sort of information that we would normally accept as self-sourced from a BLP subject. --Nat Gertler (talk) 17:39, 25 April 2020 (UTC)